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[Football] Chelsea subject of Premier League investigation for 2013 transfers



Bozza

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Further skeletons in the closet...

The transfers of Samuel Eto'o and Willian to Chelsea in 2013 form part of a Premier League investigation into potential financial breaches, a new report has revealed.​
The duo arrived at Stamford Bridge a decade ago from the now defunct Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala - Eto'o on a free transfer and Willian in a transfer worth £30m.​
The Times' latest report suggests that financial records suggests payments were made to 'Russian entities' outside of the agreed transfer fees, with the issues uncovered during the due diligence process that eventually saw Todd Boehly's Clearlake Capital consortium take control of the club.​

 




Greg Bobkin

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What a surprise!
 


sully

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Jul 7, 2003
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What would they do about it now, though? If it was Boehly's due diligence that uncovered it, surely the current owners can't then be punished for it - or can they?
 




Kinky Gerbil

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What would they do about it now, though? If it was Boehly's due diligence that uncovered it, surely the current owners can't then be punished for it - or can they?
It will be the club, not the owners.

Part of me thinks this is leading up to the City announcement, getting everyone done so they have no defence
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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10 f***ing years, in which time Chelsea won a truckload of silverwear.

I don't think there is one person out there who believes there will be any punishment for Chelsea's misdemeanours.
 




southstandandy

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Jul 9, 2003
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10 f***ing years, in which time Chelsea won a truckload of silverwear.

I don't think there is one person out there who believes there will be any punishment for Chelsea's misdemeanours.
10 f***ing years, in which time Chelsea BOUGHT a truckload of silverwear.

I don't think there is one person out there who believes there will be any punishment for Chelsea's misdemeanours.
Amended for you.
 




SAC

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2012 to 2019. If found guilty, they should take away any honours won by Chelsea during that period. From Wiki, that appears to be 2 FA Cups, one Milk Cup and a Europa Cup. Don't give the honours to another club.

A points deduction would be great but I can't see it happening, more likely a transfer ban reduced on appeal.
 


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2012 to 2019. If found guilty, they should take away any honours won by Chelsea during that period. From Wiki, that appears to be 2 FA Cups, one Milk Cup and a Europa Cup. Don't give the honours to another club.

A points deduction would be great but I can't see it happening, more likely a transfer ban reduced on appeal.
Personally, I don't get the 'taking away honours' punishment. It means nothing.

Portsmouth didn't deserve to win the FA Cup - they were in massive breach of financial regulations, and effectively bought success that they could not afford, with other people's money. If things were right and just, they would not have won that trophy. But win it, they did.

Expunge that win from their Wikipedia page if it makes anybody feel better, but it still happened - their fans still experienced that high, and will forever hold those cherished memories, regardless of what any record book says.

No City fan is going to remember the Aguero moment any differently, if 15 years later some suits declare that it no longer 'counts'.

Punishment NOW for past misdemeanours is the only deterrent. Pretending to change history is utterly meaningless.
 










beorhthelm

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Only after they've finished paying us - I would bet most the deals we agreed were in installments rather than up front.
would the fees have to go through the books to count in that year? wouldn't have thought they can amortise fees that are deferred into the future, pick one or the other.
 




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10 f***ing years, in which time Chelsea won a truckload of silverwear.

I don't think there is one person out there who believes there will be any punishment for Chelsea's misdemeanours.
I do. They’ll get a very small fine.
 




lizard

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Jul 14, 2005
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Deduct them 40 points.
Would sure make the bottom interesting, but they'd probably still stay up this season.
 


Weststander

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would the fees have to go through the books to count in that year? wouldn't have thought they can amortise fees that are deferred into the future, pick one or the other.

It’s two separate aspects.

1. The full fees including agents fees (but not add-ons) are recorded fully at the date the contract becomes unconditional. Shown in trade creditors within club accounts, rundown by cash payments to the agent and selling club. This might be over two or three years.
2. The aforementioned total fee (excluding add-ons) is capitalised as a intangible fixed asset, then amortised in a straight line over the full term of the contract.

One person, Mel Morris at Derby, cheated FFP by each year subjectively revaluing each player upwards. By design trying to swerve annual amortisation charges to the P&L Account, to falsely show less severe accounts losses.
 
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studio150

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Maybe by spending whatever the total was during the summer, Chelsea are expecting a transfer embargo as punishment, and therefore can easily ride out the windows were they can't buy anyone else.
 


Weststander

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Maybe by spending whatever the total was during the summer, Chelsea are expecting a transfer embargo as punishment, and therefore can easily ride out the windows were they can't buy anyone else.

Exactly, they did that when UEFA transfer banned them a few years ago. Deliberately going on a huge shopping spree in the build up.
 


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