[Football] Champions' league final issues

[timbha]

I've no idea, I wasn't there. Basing a viewpoint on what might have happened, never the strongest foundations.

It was covered extensively in the news at the time, and in subsequent documentaries

 

[Is it PotG?]

It was covered extensively in the news at the time, and in subsequent documentaries

News never has a slant. Ever.

Still, if it said so on the box.

 

[Boroseagull]

I think people should read Jason Burt's (Telegraph head football correspondent) article today in The Telegraph before making any further disparaging remarks about a famous city and its football club. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...graceful-french-riot-police-champions-league/

 

[timbha]

News never has a slant. Ever.

Still, if it said so on the box.

Are you saying it didn’t happen?

 

[Swansman]

yes there has been a lot of that , the English have been their own worse enemies, has the violence between Roma and Frankfurt fans been extensively covered in the English media...?? 80 deported 20 police injured , one policeman stabbed?? , the trouble at the Heysel was brought about by the locals taunting the English fans about the sinking of English ships by exocet missiles which were Belgian made...not an excuse but that is what cause it , there was footage of a photographer running across the athletics track to get away from the crumbling wall only to be flattened by a copper with a baton. No flat footed bobbies on the continent mate , they don't dick about.

Nah the troubles at Heysel was "brought about" by English fans wanting to kill locals and Italian fans which eventually led them to getting crushed against a wall. Your narrative is the same as when [MENTION=42429]Nobby Cybergoat[/MENTION] called English colonialism a "faux pas". You really have to be a very sad level of nationalistic to be unable to see the flaws of your own nation and fellow countrymen. And yes, that goes for nationalists from other countries (defo including Sweden) as well - always embarrassing how they put the blame on foreigners or belittle serious incidents atrocities.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Are you saying it didn’t happen?

I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying.

I'm saying I wasn't there so .

 

[Swansman]

I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying.

I'm saying I wasn't there so .

I suppose WW2 and 9/11 might not have happened either then?

How about the Brentford game in December, did you go or do is there a fair chance - worthy of a mention - that it didn't happen?

 

[Is it PotG?]

I suppose WW2 and 9/11 might not have happened either then?

How about the Brentford game in December, did you go or do is there a fair chance - worthy of a mention - that it didn't happen?

Have you been on the lash already?

 

[Swansman]

Have you been on the lash already?

Since you wasn't there, you can't know any of those things happened... by your own logic.

 

[Mackenzie]

From Dover to Paris, a complete break down of organisation.

 

[drew]

Yep ... some big issues and not what I'd expect from a mod.

This is my last post. I've been thinking about it for a while - but have just sent a message to [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] asking him to delete my account.

Why the 'look at me' post? Just don't visit the site, delete the links/bookmarks etc. If you don't want to post then don't.

 

[Originunknown]

Thousands travelled with fake tickets, stupid scousers. You can find the fake tickets online very easily. Chancers and organised touts will have made a fortune.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-fc-fans-scammed-out-24062316

At least the ticketless fans didn't get ripped off.

 

[drew]

yes there has been a lot of that , the English have been their own worse enemies, has the violence between Roma and Frankfurt fans been extensively covered in the English media...?? 80 deported 20 police injured , one policeman stabbed?? , the trouble at the Heysel was brought about by the locals taunting the English fans about the sinking of English ships by exocet missiles which were Belgian made...not an excuse but that is what cause it , there was footage of a photographer running across the athletics track to get away from the crumbling wall only to be flattened by a copper with a baton. No flat footed bobbies on the continent mate , they don't dick about.

Weren't exocets built by the French?

Also, have you any evidence that that was the chants and were there chants by the Liverpool fans? It was football culture which had been allowed to deteriorate unchecked for far too long.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Thousands travelled with fake tickets, stupid scousers. You can find the fake tickets online very easily. Chancers and organised touts will have made a fortune.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-fc-fans-scammed-out-24062316

At least the ticketless fans didn't get ripped off.

Your link says 50 fans bought fake tickets, not thousands. That’s not thousands. It’s odd that you call Liverpool fans stupid.

 

[beorhthelm]

Thousands travelled with fake tickets, stupid scousers. You can find the fake tickets online very easily. Chancers and organised touts will have made a fortune.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-fc-fans-scammed-out-24062316

At least the ticketless fans didn't get ripped off.

man buys ticket from internet equivalent of bloke down the pub, shocked to find its fake.

the report i heard this morning is the turnstiles got clogged and queues backed up because hundreds or thousands of fake tickets not allowing entry. so the genuine ticket holders suffer too.

 

[Originunknown]

Your link says 50 fans bought fake tickets, not thousands. That’s not thousands. It’s odd that you call Liverpool fans stupid.

No gangs or touts are just going to print 50 are they... 19k genuine, even more fake I'd wager.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

No gangs or touts are just going to print 50 are they... 19k genuine, even more fake I'd wager.

So your numbers are based on supposition rather than fact and the article you posted does not support your view.

 

[Bold Seagull]

If only UEFA had had previous experience of entry problems at major finals they could have planned stuff for it.

 

[sydney]

Weren't exocets built by the French?

Also, have you any evidence that that was the chants and were there chants by the Liverpool fans? It was football culture which had been allowed to deteriorate unchecked for far too long.

regardless of who produced the ordinance i was told by people at the time that the chants were what they were , this has been corroborated a number of times since by different people who were there that evening.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

man buys ticket from internet equivalent of bloke down the pub, shocked to find its fake.

the report i heard this morning is the turnstiles got clogged and queues backed up because hundreds or thousands of fake tickets not allowing entry. so the genuine ticket holders suffer too.

Did the article mention the genuine ticket holders that were denied entry thus clogging up turnstiles ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61621930

Like many others you have believed a story because of confirmation bias. I am waiting for actual facts before coming to a view.