[Albion] Carl Rushworth

[hans kraay fan club]

We want two PL ready keepers and one prospect don't we?

Look at that Villa home game. Their main keeper was injured, the reserve comes in, puts in a MOM performance and keeps them in a game in which they were second best. We want a back up of that level.

Rushworth and Verbruggen should slug it out for the number one spot. May the best man win. The new Aussie could come in for 3rd choice

The others ...

Scherpen is surely off.
Steele if he gets another back up role somewhere should 100% take it and be given very warm applause next time he appears at the Amex.
Beadle. Another Championship loan and we'll see in a year
McGill needs to forge his career somewhere. Let's get the lad a decent club

Cillian Cahill is 20, and plays the U21/23 games ahead of 'the new Aussie' (Steven Hall).

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Cillian Cahill is 20, and plays the U21/23 games ahead of 'the new Aussie' (Steven Hall).

Brilliant knowledge that

 

[ewe2]

Well whatever happens we won’t damage his career ,either he’s in contention,(and that doesn’t mean 3rd choice!) loaned or sold.IMO he will be loaned out again.

 

[Rookie]

Cillian Cahill is 20, and plays the U21/23 games ahead of 'the new Aussie' (Steven Hall).

And has been the third choice keeper recently

 

[Mancgull]

But we can only loan one player to Ipswich, and I seem to recall it being said if they secured promotion Sarmiento would stay there next season.

Good point. I think you are right about Sarmiento.
I expect that Ipswich would prefer Rushworth out of the two but it may well be that they don’t have an option and Sarmiento is contracted to stay.

 

[GT49er]

So what’s next for this young talent?

I have to say Bart was outstanding on Saturday. If Steele does leave do we want Carl warming a bench or does another Championship loan make sense? I don’t want him loaned to a Prem team as that would mean he’s also good enough for us.

Why do you not want him to be found to be good enough for us?

 

[GT49er]

i thought Walton was Ipswich first team keeper until injured

.....and Hladky has come in and done enough to keep Walton out of making a comeback when fit again. Besides, if they have Sarmiento................

 

[Marshy]

I would Like Rushworth back to battle it out with Bart ideally.

If not a Prem loan to Ipswich would also be good. Not much value for me in another Champ loan.
Maybe to a side really pushing for promotion at a push

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I can’t see Bart being here more than another season. He is an oustanding young keeper and I think a full season of being first choice for us and the Netherlands will mean we end up with some massive bids next summer we can’t turn down. So I would loan Rushworth for another season with a view to being our number one the following season.

And Steele to remain as back up keeper.

 

[nwgull]

I can’t see Bart being here more than another season. He is an oustanding young keeper and I think a full season of being first choice for us and the Netherlands will mean we end up with some massive bids next summer we can’t turn down. So I would loan Rushworth for another season with a view to being our number one the following season.

And Steele to remain as back up keeper.

This would be my bet.

I think I’m in a very small minority, but I just don’t see how Rushworth coming back from loan and ‘competing’ with Bart for the number 1 spot works. For a start, I’m guessing that playing GK at elite level is a bit like batting in cricket, whereby you’re only going to get real practice and experience by playing regular senior games against full-blooded attacks in front of 30K+ fans. 6-7 cup games a season, at least half of which will be against lower-level opponents, aren’t going to provide that.

Secondly, what happens to Bart if we revert to Rushworth? We’ve then got a 22 year old international keeper sitting on the bench costing us circa 6.5m a year in amortisation and wages combined. I’d much rather that money was spent on an outfield player that we could rotate as and when injuries/fatigue dictates and who can come off the bench as an impact sub.

 

[Whitechapel]

Wasn’t there a rumour that the Sarmiento loan would be extended if they got promoted? If that’s true then we wouldn’t be able to loan them Rushworth*


*I assume that this has been covered but I’m too lazy to look through the thread.

 

[TW Seagull]

I would Like Rushworth back to battle it out with Bart ideally.

If not a Prem loan to Ipswich would also be good. Not much value for me in another Champ loan.
Maybe to a side really pushing for promotion at a push

A friend pointed out that it’s. Quite an advantage loaning a keeper to another prem side as he can’t play against us but can stop our rivals getting good results against the team he’s loaned to.

 

[Commander]

This would be my bet.

I think I’m in a very small minority, but I just don’t see how Rushworth coming back from loan and ‘competing’ with Bart for the number 1 spot works. For a start, I’m guessing that playing GK at elite level is a bit like batting in cricket, whereby you’re only going to get real practice and experience by playing regular senior games against full-blooded attacks in front of 30K+ fans. 6-7 cup games a season, at least half of which will be against lower-level opponents, aren’t going to provide that.

Secondly, what happens to Bart if we revert to Rushworth? We’ve then got a 22 year old international keeper sitting on the bench costing us circa 6.5m a year in amortisation and wages combined. I’d much rather that money was spent on an outfield player that we could rotate as and when injuries/fatigue dictates and who can come off the bench as an impact sub.

Think you've answered your own question there.

Bring on Bart with 20 minutes to go as an impact sub.

 

[albionalex]

Think you've answered your own question there.

Bring on Bart with 20 minutes to go as an impact sub.

 

[jackanada]

Well I see Steele to Arsenal making sense to them. Plays the way they want, doesn't make waves, good around the place. As I believe CH said when giving Casper another year "third goalkeeper is in it's own way a very specialist position".
70% Bart 30% Carl next season might not be ideal but certainly works with our model.

 

[Hiheidi]

Roberto said last week that there will likely be a pre-season chance for Rushworth, with Verbruggen at the Euros and McGill in Copa America. So surely makes sense to hold fire on any decisions.

Also, in terms of chances for a back up keeper, a lot of teams have been very reliant on them this season - Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Roberto said last week that there will likely be a pre-season chance for Rushworth, with Verbruggen at the Euros and McGill in Copa America. So surely makes sense to his fire on any decisions.

Also, in terms of chances for a back up keeper, a lot of teams have been very reliant on them this season - Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.

Add Villa to that. Palace would presumably have had Johnstone playing

Also getting clarification on what his happening with Steele may also influence what we do with Rushworth

 

[Surf's Up]

I can’t see Bart being here more than another season. He is an oustanding young keeper and I think a full season of being first choice for us and the Netherlands will mean we end up with some massive bids next summer we can’t turn down. So I would loan Rushworth for another season with a view to being our number one the following season.

And Steele to remain as back up keeper.

You were doing so well until...........

 

[Albion 4ever]

Steele to Arsenal could be a goer as they will likely need someone HGP to replace Ramsdale.

 

[AZ Gull]

Roberto said last week that there will likely be a pre-season chance for Rushworth, with Verbruggen at the Euros and McGill in Copa America. So surely makes sense to hold fire on any decisions.

Also, in terms of chances for a back up keeper, a lot of teams have been very reliant on them this season - Newcastle, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.

I did read that, and I was pretty surprised about the McGill bit. He hasn't had a call-up by Canada since the Gold Cup last July (and has never made an appearance for them). In fact, the sum total of his action this entire season has been (**checks notes**) ten appearances for Albion U-21s.

I certainly wouldn't claim to have any knowledge of Canada's other 'keepers, but it's difficult to imagine they will suddenly call him up this summer. He could, of course, be on standby.

I must admit, I find McGill's career "progression" (or lack of it) bizarre.