[Football] Cardiff v Chelsea - posives and negatives

[GT49er]

Marginal I think you’ll agree [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Wouldn't have been offside against us - we'd have had eight or nine behind the ball crowded round our tiny Maty.

 

[chaileyjem]

Have you been watching us?

Apart from palace where we were pretty good, we have been universally abysmal this year. Even Millwall looked better than us and we needed a freak goal to do them. Cardiff look better than us at the moment.

Yes. But not sure there’s a lot further to go with a nuanced debate about progression, our flaws and comparisons with 17/18 if the starting point is we are “universally abysmal”!!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Chelsea will look like Brazil '70 against us. Because we will sit back.

Sideshow David Luiz had a ridiculously easy day at the office at the Amex. Barely broke into a jog.

 

[father_and_son]

...would have taken this at start of season.

This absolutely sums it up for me. We are close but one team down already, one other spot taken, so only 18th to avoid.

Our second season in PL and we are 5points away from that one remaining drop-spot with a better run in than the current incumbent.

I really do think some people are deluding themselves suggesting we aren't doing better than could be expected or that we weren't a relegation contender.

And in 12m time? I'd still take this position as a good one!

 

[Justice]

I thought bad karma might come Cardiff’s way once they started to refuse to pay the Sala fee. Looks like I was right.

 

[Stat Brother]

This absolutely sums it up for me. We are close but one team down already, one other spot taken, so only 18th to avoid.

Our second season in PL and we are 5points away from that one remaining drop-spot with a better run in than the current incumbent.

I really do think some people are deluding themselves suggesting we aren't doing better than could be expected or that we weren't a relegation contender.

And in 12m time? I'd still take this position as a good one!

I guess it depends on how the team has got to the position of still being 5 points away from relegation.

They've spent most of the season getting into touching distance of the Everton Cup contenders.
Every time they been that one win away, they've lost and then lost some more.
Until finally they are at the stage of hoping Cardiff lose.

This all smacks of regessing back to 'aren't we lucky to be in this division', until such time as we're not.

I don't expect us to be challenging for Europe but I do expect the team to progress but that attitude doesn't seem too apparent esp when looking at not only away form but the teams form against our nearest rivals.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Cardiff scored an offside goal against us....
Apparently all evens itself out....


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And Bamba wasnt bookedfor taking his shirt off!!!!! Karma!! If Mr Warnockcomplains about refereeing......

 

[Jim Van Winkle]

Sideshow David Luiz had a ridiculously easy day at the office at the Amex. Barely broke into a jog.

He’ll be on the halfway line wearing a pair of slippers and smoking a pipe at the Bridge.

 

[El Turi]

Sideshow David Luiz had a ridiculously easy day at the office at the Amex. Barely broke into a jog.

Until Andone came on.

 

[Jim Van Winkle]

Marginal I think you’ll agree [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Anything that upsets Colin Wanker is alright by me.

 

[timbha]

i'm not sure how much capacity there is in the current squad for "improvement".

Bernardo is steadily improving and looks like a PL player. Bissouma looks like he could become a good PL player, given time. Andone possibly ?……..now I'm struggling

Can Knocky, Propper, Gross, Murray, Stephens, Montoya, Locadia (maybe), Dunk, Duffy, March (maybe), Issy (maybe), Ali (maybe) improve by much, to the extent that we will become a better team

I sort of agree that we are doing well to "stay in there" but cant see things being much better with this squad in the PL next season, and I suspect Leeds/Norwich + 1 will be stronger than Hudds, Fulham and Cardiff

 

[zefarelly]

A few had purple patches last season.

Bissouma and Andone have potential but not quite there yet. Likewise AJ.

Propper and Gross both good enough, if utilised properly

The championship players peaked last season, or in some cases the season before

i'm not sure how much capacity there is in the current squad for "improvement".

Bernardo is steadily improving and looks like a PL player. Bissouma looks like he could become a good PL player, given time. Andone possibly ?……..now I'm struggling

Can Knocky, Propper, Gross, Murray, Stephens, Montoya, Locadia (maybe), Dunk, Duffy, March (maybe), Issy (maybe), Ali (maybe) improve by much, to the extent that we will become a better team

I sort of agree that we are doing well to "stay in there" but cant see things being much better with this squad in the PL next season, and I suspect Leeds/Norwich + 1 will be stronger than Hudds, Fulham and Cardiff

 

[Billy in Bristol]

Anything that upsets Colin Wanker is alright by me.

Colin After our game

 

[Weststander]

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Colin After our game

**** won’t be talking to Mrs Warnock at Cntsville for a couple of days this time.

A hammer blow.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Incorrect. Cardiff went at Chelsea, we won’t. We’ll sit back and defend, give a daft goal away and then go at them for the last 10 minutes.

I can kind of understand those tactics when playing away at Stamford Bridge, but what l really can't fathom, or forgive, is sitting back at home to lowly Southampton, defending, giving a daft goal away, and leaving our fight back, (if that's what you want to call it), until it was far too late. Utter lunacy.

 

[GT49er]

Got to feel sorry for Cardiff on the wrong end of an appalling decision like that. Still, it potentially benefits us - and we've been the victims of a few stinkers ourselves.




VAR would have helped - but from what I have seen of VAR in England so far, sadly it'll make things worse, not better. 'Clear and obvious errors or omissions', fine - but not a three minute wait while the officials pour over a small screen to decide whether one eyelash was marginally offside ............ possibly ................ maybe ..... let's look at it again. And it will still be controversial. No thanks!

 

[Weststander]

Got to feel sorry for Cardiff on the wrong end of an appalling decision like that. Still, it potentially benefits us - and we've been the victims of a few stinkers ourselves.




VAR would have helped - but from what I have seen of VAR in England so far, sadly it'll make things worse, not better. 'Clear and obvious errors or omissions', fine - but not a three minute wait while the officials pour over a small screen to decide whether one eyelash was marginally offside ............ possibly ................ maybe ..... let's look at it again. And it will still be controversial. No thanks!

I hate incompetence by officials.

But don’t feel sorry for them at all. Horrible club and fans, the ultimate bad loser manager, and appalling behaviour of late regarding Sala affair.

 

[Icy Gull]

I can kind of understand those tactics when playing away at Stamford Bridge, but what l really can't fathom, or forgive, is sitting back at home to lowly Southampton, defending, giving a daft goal away, and leaving our fight back, (if that's what you want to call it), until it was far too late. Utter lunacy.

Exactly, I will have no problem in us being the world’s most negative team again on Wednesday because I understand why we’d play like that away at Chelsea. Tactics were absolute shit against Saints at the Amex though and I didn’t and don’t understand why we played like that.

 

[Weststander]

Exactly, I will have no problem in us being the world’s most negative team again on Wednesday because I understand why we’d play like that away at Chelsea. Tactics were absolute shit against Saints at the Amex though and I didn’t and don’t understand why we played like that.

Don’t know if it was tactics. On the touchline and post match, CH was noticably annoyed/perplexed with the game execution of his players for 65 minutes.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

I hate incompetence by officials.

But don’t feel sorry for them at all. Horrible club and fans, the ultimate bad loser manager, and appalling behaviour of late regarding Sala affair.

A tad harsh perhaps. I know Warnock is a Marmite manager, love him or hate him, but l can see why he is so popular with Cardiff fans, if anyone can keep them up it will be him.