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[Food] Carbon negative products



Giraffe

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I’ve just eaten a Jude’s ice cream that says it is Carbon Negative.

Why doesn’t all governments just mass produce these and job done?

Swimming in ice cream.
 






Guinness Boy

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I’ve just eaten a Jude’s ice cream that says it is Carbon Negative.

Why doesn’t all governments just mass produce these and job done?

Swimming in ice cream.
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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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I’ve just eaten a Jude’s ice cream that says it is Carbon Negative.

Why doesn’t all governments just mass produce these and job done?

Swimming in ice cream.
Because there are only so many trees you can plant before there is no land left to grow crops for food on.....

And once everyone else has sold you their 'carbon credits' - there will be none left to buy.

However - that's a cynical take on it. So good for them in general.
 




Coldeanseagull

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Because there are only so many trees you can plant before there is no land left to grow crops for food on.....

And once everyone else has sold you their 'carbon credits' - there will be none left to buy.

However - that's a cynical take on it. So good for them in general.
I'm an omnivore, I can live off a diet of vegans and meat once all the the crops have gone
 
















dsr-burnley

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What do you think the livestock eat?

Hint - 80% of crops grown worldwide are used to feed livestock.
In that case, there's no need to cut back on meat production. Because 9% of crops are used for biofuels and industry, so that means only 11% are used for feeding people. Abolish biofuels, and we have almost doubled crop production for humans. Problem solved with no meat reduction.

Or as an alternative, stop quoting rubbish figures about crop production. The University of Minnesota (link attached) reckons 36% is used for animal feed. Have you a link for your 80%?

 


portlock seagull

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It’s nonsense at moment, there’s no industry standardisation, agreement of terms etc. Personally I’m enjoying a lot of vegan friendly mineral water currently :)
 


abc

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What do you think the livestock eat?

Hint - 80% of crops grown worldwide are used to feed livestock.
You just made that figure up as you well know. However, the growing of all non meat food for humans requires soil nutrition. This can come from one of two sources: artificial fossil fuel based nitrogen fertilisers that are the single biggest carbon contributor in world agriculture, or livestock manures and proper rotations (legumes that naturally extract nitrogen from the atmosphere and fix it in the soil) and grass, the single biggest carbon sink in the world.
This is why the IPCC stated that livestock farming is ‘part of the solution’ to climate change.
As always, going to the extreme is unhelpful. Intensive livestock farming is not good from a climate or ethical perspective. The same applies to a desire to turn world agriculture vegan.
Balance is required in all areas of agriculture and food production for the sake of animals, humans, and the planet.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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“BrewDog Is Officially The First Carbon Negative Beer Business”
 




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Brovion

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Well I'm going to Glyndebourne in June, and Glyndebourne generates (via its wind turbine) more electricity than it uses (105%). It's also phased out bottled water and uses water from its own spring.

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Westdene Seagull

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I’ve just eaten a Jude’s ice cream that says it is Carbon Negative.

Why doesn’t all governments just mass produce these and job done?

Swimming in ice cream.
No such thing as carbon negative production in the same way there is no such thing as carbon neutral travel - despite what Easyjet and Herr T will tell you.
 
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