Camber Sands

[LVGull]

She's needs putting down.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.in...police-report-a7209081.html?amp?client=safari

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

She's needs putting down.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.in...police-report-a7209081.html?amp?client=safari

She is truly deplorable.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

This sorry excuse for a woman will do anything to grab headlines and get attention, she is seriously sick with all her previous views on other topics.
I just wish TV would not entertain her and give her airtime, or get her on and totally rip her apart and not let her get away with it time and time again on programmes like This Morning.

 

[portlock seagull]

I read a family of the tragic fatalities have attacked authorities for allowing the beach to be open when someone died recently in similar circumstances. And for the lack of (costing money) lifeguards. I have to say if I drowned anywhere off a beach I'd only be blaming myself. Why is it always someone else's fault and why should a beach where 25k others enjoyed themselves safely be closed to everyone because a few were negligent and paid dearly for being so? Same with those 'tombstoners' who jump to their deaths each year 'for a laugh' often after drinking. Tragic though it is, maybe if people took more personal responsibility because with the sea, there's only one winner. As for that woman who had to be rescued 3 times in a week recently, she ought to be prosecuted for endangering her rescuers each time. Tragic? Yes. Someone else's fault? I'm afraid not.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

I think that if you were in the families position so soon after the incident you may say similar things people do after the shock of it all, you find things to blame.
And they have a point, one death already, a popular and crowded beach in the summer holidays, there really should have been lifeguards, I think the council need to answer a few questions.
Apparently people complained about too much signage warning people of dangers, it spoilt the look of the beach.

 

[portlock seagull]

I think that if you were in the families position so soon after the incident you may say similar things people do after the shock of it all, you find things to blame.
And they have a point, one death already, a popular and crowded beach in the summer holidays, there really should have been lifeguards, I think the council need to answer a few questions.
Apparently people complained about too much signage warning people of dangers, it spoilt the look of the beach.

Maybe. It's symptomatic of today though, always being someone else's fault. Where there's a blame etc. I don't buy into there should be a paid for service (from tax payers money) to stop people doing dangerous things. I knew from a very early age that the sea was potentially a lethal place to play never mind by the time I was twenty. Anyway, my point was with everything else to pay for we ought not to be paying for lifeguards on every beach. It's easy to say we should in response to these incidents but the reality is it's impractical. Much better people take responsibility for themselves a lot more than many care to. Such as that stupid woman being rescued 3 times in a week.

 

[Mr Putdown]

Near a sewage works?

Well yes, that's why there were so many shrimps as they had a plentiful food source.

You do know what shrimps and prawns eat I assume?

 

[Gwylan]

I knew from a very early age that the sea was potentially a lethal place to play never mind by the time I was twenty.

But were you brought up by the sea? I think people who live in coastal towns have a much better understanding of this. These guys were down from London and probably had no idea about how quickly tides can come in. There certainly needs to be better education to people - look at the nutters who walk along seawalls with massive waves crashing down or people going for a swim when the red flag is flying. Too many folk here think the sea is benign and have no thought for the dangers.

Well yes, that's why there were so many shrimps as they had a plentiful food source.

You do know what shrimps and prawns eat I assume?

I do.... wouldn't catch me eating one

 

[ManOfSussex]

But were you brought up by the sea? I think people who live in coastal towns have a much better understanding of this. These guys were down from London and probably had no idea about how quickly tides can come in. There certainly needs to be better education to people - look at the nutters who walk along seawalls with massive waves crashing down or people going for a swim when the red flag is flying. Too many folk here think the sea is benign and have no thought for the dangers.

I agree with that. Growing up close to the sea, as I and many of us on here would have done, I do think we have far more respect and understanding of it than those who didn't.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Katie Hopkins really will stop at nothing to get attention will she. I just wish that nobody would give her the attention she craves.

 

[GypsyKing]

Maybe. It's symptomatic of today though, always being someone else's fault. Where there's a blame etc. I don't buy into there should be a paid for service (from tax payers money) to stop people doing dangerous things. I knew from a very early age that the sea was potentially a lethal place to play never mind by the time I was twenty. Anyway, my point was with everything else to pay for we ought not to be paying for lifeguards on every beach. It's easy to say we should in response to these incidents but the reality is it's impractical. Much better people take responsibility for themselves a lot more than many care to. Such as that stupid woman being rescued 3 times in a week.

Whilst agreeing with your general sentiment, I think you are being a little harsh in this example. It's right that the sea should be given the respect it deserves but even the best of us can get into unexpected difficulties. Given this is a popular location and compared to say the service we recieve in Brighton & Hove, I don't think it unreasonable to expect there to be some lifeguards permanently present during peak season. That's not to say people should then ignore the dangers of the sea but like any insurance policy, the lifeguards should be there just in case...

Who should pay for this is another matter as arguably the likes of Pontin's should contribute given it's marketed as such a feature of their site.

 

[GypsyKing]

And clearly I meant Pontins not Pontin's. Oops...

 

[Normal Rob]

reading the papers this mornng it appears as though the 5 lads were playing footy, the sea rushed in and softened the sand they were on, effectivley turning it into quicksand. Tragic, heartbreaking.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Lifeguards in place for this weekend

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[BigGully]

But were you brought up by the sea? I think people who live in coastal towns have a much better understanding of this. These guys were down from London and probably had no idea about how quickly tides can come in. There certainly needs to be better education to people - look at the nutters who walk along seawalls with massive waves crashing down or people going for a swim when the red flag is flying. Too many folk here think the sea is benign and have no thought for the dangers.



I do.... wouldn't catch me eating one

I totally disagree.

Looking back as older and wiser people that I doubt hardly enter the seas these days, its a casual misinterpretation.

I grew up and remain 400 metres from the sea as have so many of my friends.

I actually think due to the proximity and the fun to be had we showed absolutely no respect or understanding of its danger, we were all strong swimmers, we took (looking back) loads of silly risks,from the age of ten years old without any adults we were diving off sea walls, swimming during rough weather, inflatables in poor weather, mucking around in and around the sea all the time.

But perhaps the key was, firstly we or our parents didn't hear of tragedies in other parts of the country and the subsequent newsfeeds of 'riptides' etc and what not to do,so we continued to be strong swimmers, young, stupid but no respect whatsoever.

 

[GT49er]

I can understand the families' reactions (and all sympathy to them), but the calling for lifeguards is a bit of a knee-jerk. Putting lifeguards on Camber Sands unfortunately won't bring those five lads back, and deaths like this at the seaside - especially five at a time - are very rare.
I understand the point that some have made about people brought up near the coast being more aware of the dangers than inlanders, but for generations millions of Londoners (and people from Birmingham and other large inland cities) have been coming to the seaside for a holiday or a day out, and only a very, very tiny proportion of them have been drowned. Does that justify putting lifeguards on every beach? I know (and agree) you can't put a price on human life, but ultimately we have to accept that we cannot prevent every accidental death

 

[portlock seagull]

Whilst agreeing with your general sentiment, I think you are being a little harsh in this example. It's right that the sea should be given the respect it deserves but even the best of us can get into unexpected difficulties. Given this is a popular location and compared to say the service we recieve in Brighton & Hove, I don't think it unreasonable to expect there to be some lifeguards permanently present during peak season. That's not to say people should then ignore the dangers of the sea but like any insurance policy, the lifeguards should be there just in case...

Who should pay for this is another matter as arguably the likes of Pontin's should contribute given it's marketed as such a feature of their site.

It's not harsh because we're discussing it on a chat site not with the families. And the question of who should pay is always relevant.

 

[portlock seagull]

But were you brought up by the sea? I think people who live in coastal towns have a much better understanding of this. These guys were down from London and probably had no idea about how quickly tides can come in. There certainly needs to be better education to people - look at the nutters who walk along seawalls with massive waves crashing down or people going for a swim when the red flag is flying. Too many folk here think the sea is benign and have no thought for the dangers.



I do.... wouldn't catch me eating one

Nope. So that's that line of argument f ecked!

 

[The Birdman]

 

[trueblue]

This sorry excuse for a woman will do anything to grab headlines and get attention, she is seriously sick with all her previous views on other topics.
I just wish TV would not entertain her and give her airtime, or get her on and totally rip her apart and not let her get away with it time and time again on programmes like This Morning.

Too right. Hard to stop a craven self-publicist like Hopkins from embarrassing herself but her employers should take a hard line. The fact they don't says everything about them and their morals.