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[Football] Burnley down, Luton up



Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,264
Withdean area
Burnley’s a typical mixed bag, with a significant Asian population, interesting industrial and football history, stunning countryside and it produced the brilliant Tony Livesey.

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Let’s not look down on an entire area and its people, due to few racists in a football crowd.
 






darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
7,651
Sittingbourne, Kent
Burnley’s a typical mixed bag, with a significant Asian population, interesting industrial and football history, stunning countryside and it produced the brilliant Tony Livesey.

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Let’s not look down on an entire area and its people, due to few racists in a football crowd.

Oh good grief, people bringing facts to the party, rather than lazy, racist, stereotypes... :lolol:
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,264
Withdean area
Oh good grief, people bringing facts to the party, rather than lazy, racist, stereotypes... :lolol:

There’s always been a misplaced arrogance from some people in this part of the world. Who the feck are we to judge and condemn? I love these isles, open our eyes, it appears that football day trips weren’t enough to truly get to know a place and the locals.
 




wuntbedruv

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Mar 18, 2022
585
North West Sussex
Burnley’s a typical mixed bag, with a significant Asian population, interesting industrial and football history, stunning countryside and it produced the brilliant Tony Livesey.

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Let’s not look down on an entire area and its people, due to few racists in a football crowd.

I was comparing towns, Burnley is as I presented it, a rather depressing drive into the town centre and a rather unwelcoming city centre. As a Socialist I understand how these areas were destroyed by reagon-omics and thatcherism, I can also understand ( but reject ) the reasons nazi recruitment tactics worked there, Luton with the decline of the motor industry similarly affected with the rise of the right wing and the EDL . In the day the ANL were effective in stopping the right in Brighton despite the beast of Westbourne Gardens or Ted Budden being in our midst.

But Burnley is a dump and Luton is Luton
 










dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
I was comparing towns, Burnley is as I presented it, a rather depressing drive into the town centre and a rather unwelcoming city centre. As a Socialist I understand how these areas were destroyed by reagon-omics and thatcherism, I can also understand ( but reject ) the reasons nazi recruitment tactics worked there, Luton with the decline of the motor industry similarly affected with the rise of the right wing and the EDL . In the day the ANL were effective in stopping the right in Brighton despite the beast of Westbourne Gardens or Ted Budden being in our midst.

But Burnley is a dump and Luton is Luton

I ran along the canal last time we were up there…….could have been a million miles from the town centre. Interesting mix of countryside and old industry. Very peaceful early morning.
 






wuntbedruv

Imagine
Mar 18, 2022
585
North West Sussex
I ran along the canal last time we were up there…….could have been a million miles from the town centre. Interesting mix of countryside and old industry. Very peaceful early morning.

We found a fantastic B&B a few miles out and had a great stay the BZ 4-0 game , lots of fun with friendly locals in the pub that night and it is a relatively small town surrounded by great countryside. But that is England, even Middlesbrough has lots of nice places around it.
 








cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
6,306
La Rochelle
It,s a difficult choice this week to know who has been the most tiresome troll.......Pure White or wuntbedruv....?


Oh...and I wont be bothering to reply to any more trolling posts from them .
 




Mr Putdown

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Jan 26, 2004
2,901
Christchurch
Burnley’s a typical mixed bag, with a significant Asian population, interesting industrial and football history, stunning countryside and it produced the brilliant Tony Livesey.

Swap Tony Livesey for say, David Arnold, and you could describe Luton in exactly the same way.
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
2,625
You have not the grace to admit you are wrong on both counts.
Look, it's clear from your posts that you aren't very bright, which isn't a problem of course. But the maximum number of BNP councillors in Burnley was 8 out of 45, which is some way short of a majority. They would have needed 23.

A bit of background would be relevant here. Twenty years ago, the Labour party was absolutely in charge of Burnley with 34 out of 45 seats. Some of the town centre wards weren't even contested. The Liberals had few candidates and many of the population would scratch their eyes out with a pin before voting conservative.

Then the Labour party went off the rails.

First their mayor was caught and convicted after a guilty plea of hanging out in the public toilets, hanging out in more ways than one, in a town centre park during half term. He was apparently looking for adult men rather than children, but he was still convicted of gross indecency. A motion of censure was put to the council saying this was inappropriate behaviour for an elected representative, but the Labour party voted it down - they felt it was appropriate behaviour - and the man remained on the council, and on the public protection committee.

Then half a dozen Labour councillors were suspended for council house fraud. They were saving the best houses for their own supporters.

Then another Labour mayor got caught, but not convicted, in election fraud. Somehow his parents were registered as UK voters at his home address, despite the fact that his father had spent just a fortnight in the UK in his life while his mother had never visited at all. The mayor got away with it because he said it was all his daughter's fault. No-one was prosecuted.

So Labour had done their level best to become unelectable, and the BNP stepped into the void. It was certainly wrong to elect them, but the context (I hope) at least explains how it happened.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,683
The Fatherland
Would that be the perfect exchange of unpleasant towns?
Want to see NJ do well but what town is worse?

White Lives Matter, booing of the knee, employing Joey Barton, BNP councilors, that BNP banner on the chimney outside the station. Burnley is a grim place and far worse than Luton.
 


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