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Burglar who will burgle no longer



Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,388
Leek
I was once told by a
legal type person that the best weapon to have by your bed was a putter. If you had to hit a burglar with it you could claim you had it there as you liked to practice your putting before bed. You couldn't make a similar claim of a sand iron or baseball bat.

Clever,i like it !!
 




Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,388
Leek
Stabbed burglar 27yo John Bennell was on bail (gosh what i surprise) for a burglary in Tamworth In JUNE 2011. DEFEND THAT ?
 


GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Clever,i like it !!

better still leave the iron in all night-sorry i burnt his face my lord it was the closest thing i could find,oh silly me i left it on,ok i will take the eco fine for wasted co2 footprints
 


Waynflete

Well-known member
Nov 10, 2009
1,105
Stabbed burglar 27yo John Bennell was on bail (gosh what i surprise) for a burglary in Tamworth In JUNE 2011. DEFEND THAT ?

Not sure of your point. Nobody here, as far as I'm aware, has been defending burglary. What has been discussed is whether the burglar deserved to die. The fact he may possibly have committed more than one burglary doesn't alter that debate very much.
 


binky

Active member
Aug 9, 2005
632
Hove
Not sure of your point. Nobody here, as far as I'm aware, has been defending burglary. What has been discussed is whether the burglar deserved to die. The fact he may possibly have committed more than one burglary doesn't alter that debate very much.

Yeahhh. I think it does.
After all, in court, previous isn't allowed when establishing guilt, but is very much taken into account when sentencing.

Someone who KEEPS on CHOOSING to invade other peoples homes in order to steal their hard earned deserves tougher punishment than a one time mistake... no?

We are back to trying to establish the severity of that punishment.
 






Waynflete

Well-known member
Nov 10, 2009
1,105
Yeahhh. I think it does.
After all, in court, previous isn't allowed when establishing guilt, but is very much taken into account when sentencing.

Someone who KEEPS on CHOOSING to invade other peoples homes in order to steal their hard earned deserves tougher punishment than a one time mistake... no?

We are back to trying to establish the severity of that punishment.

It is relevant to a question of the severity of punishment in a court. It is not relevant to the question of what action a homeowner is allowed to take against a burglar because, under most circumstances, the homeowner will have no knowledge of whether the burglar had previous or not.

The action taken by a homeowner to defend him/herself, family and property should be for defence, not in lieu of punishment by the courts. So whether the burglar had committed other burglaries is irrelevant to the initial question of what rights a homeowner has to defend him/herself.

It would be, I agree, relevant to the broader question of sentencing.
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
The man referred to in the opening post who defended his home and family from burglars has been told that he will not face prosecution. Sensible decision from the CPS.

BBC

A man who fatally stabbed a burglar at his home in Salford will not be prosecuted, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has said.

Peter Flanagan, 59, who was confronted by machete-wielding intruders, "did what he believed necessary" to defend his home in Pendlebury, the CPS ruled
 




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