[Albion] Brighton make move to sign Giannis Konstantelias...

[Bakero]

I lived in Cyprus for 6 years of my life, either side of the ‘74 war, and I’ve holidayed with friends and family in both the North and South once or twice annually for the past 30 years or so.
They don’t go about the place calling themselves Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots.
Those that are from the island are all Cypriot to me. That makes sense to me, no lesson needed.

For the rest of us, isn't Greek Cypriots/Turkish Cypriots handy shorthand? Or is it seen as offensive? As far as I know the Turkish Cypriots in London refer to themselves as Turkish Cypriots. The Greek speakers too.

Not so long ago a fair few of the Greeks wanted to be part of Greece, right? Is dropping the term Greek Cypriot a move to distance themselves from past conflict?

 

[Seagull58]

The Republic of Cyprus is the southern part of the island now, and an EU member. Their language is Greek, however they are not Greek.

Flag of Cyprus - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

According to the constitution, the community authorities and their institutions have the right to hoist the Greek flag or the Turkish flag alongside the flag of Cyprus during the holidays. Any citizen may, without any restriction, fly the Greek or Turkish flag, or both, next to the Cypriot flag at their residence or store.[5] Other provisions also allow municipalities, educational institutions and the National Guard to do so as well. Since the de facto division of the island, consecutive to the 1974 invasion, the flag of Greece is the only of the two flown in the area under the jurisdiction of the Republic of Cyprus, due to the predominant presence of Greek-Cypriots in that part of the island. Similarly, the flag of Turkey is only observed in the area under the control of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (recognised only by Turkey).

So, rather than calling them Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, we should call them Cypriots who fly the flag of Greece on holidays and Cypriots who fly the flag of Turkey on holidays.

 

[LamieRobertson]

So are we signing him then?

 

[KZNSeagull]

So are we signing him then?

Only if we send their marbles back

 

[Superphil]

For the rest of us, isn't Greek Cypriots/Turkish Cypriots handy shorthand? Or is it seen as offensive? As far as I know the Turkish Cypriots in London refer to themselves as Turkish Cypriots. The Greek speakers too.

Not so long ago a fair few of the Greeks wanted to be part of Greece, right? Is dropping the term Greek Cypriot a move to distance themselves from past conflict?

It is handy shorthand I guess. And yes, a few wanted to be part of Greece, hence the coup and the following war.

 

[jcdenton08]

Feckin’ Greeks!!! They invented gayness

 

[Superphil]

Flag of Cyprus - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

According to the constitution, the community authorities and their institutions have the right to hoist the Greek flag or the Turkish flag alongside the flag of Cyprus during the holidays. Any citizen may, without any restriction, fly the Greek or Turkish flag, or both, next to the Cypriot flag at their residence or store.[5] Other provisions also allow municipalities, educational institutions and the National Guard to do so as well. Since the de facto division of the island, consecutive to the 1974 invasion, the flag of Greece is the only of the two flown in the area under the jurisdiction of the Republic of Cyprus, due to the predominant presence of Greek-Cypriots in that part of the island. Similarly, the flag of Turkey is only observed in the area under the control of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (recognised only by Turkey).

I guess that makes sense, after all the Aussies and New Zealanders, amongst others, fly the Union flag as part of their own.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I lived in Cyprus for 6 years of my life, either side of the ‘74 war, and I’ve holidayed with friends and family in both the North and South once or twice annually for the past 30 years or so.
They don’t go about the place calling themselves Greek Cypriots or Turkish Cypriots.
Those that are from the island are all Cypriot to me. That makes sense to me, no lesson needed.

Aha! An excellent double down, complete with credentials for why you might know what you are talking about. Top effort there.

I personally only ever encountered the Greek/Turk addition when I worked in a pub in north London. There were many Cypriots living locally and they would class themselves as one or the other. It seemed important to them at the time so I never questioned it. But this was in the 90s so maybe attitudes have changed since then.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

So are we signing him then?

No idea. To be honest, I've tried to keep up with this thread, but it's all Greek to me (with a bit of Cyprus and Turkey, by the looks of it).

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Yet another player thread hijacked by an unrelated debate about Cyprus !

 

[phoenix]

Thanks for all the updats lads f*** it im going to start a threasd about

Giannis Konstantelias whose a footballer we might be interested in.​

 

[SeagullsoverLondon]

Thanks for all the updats lads f*** it im going to start a threasd about

Giannis Konstantelias whose a footballer we might be interested in.​

I would think twice about that if I were you. The grammar pedants are likely to hijack that thread!

I think everyone has gone Barco mad, so not interested in Greek football for now.

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

I would think twice about that if I were you. The grammar pedants are likely to hijack that thread!

I think everyone has gone Barco mad, so not interested in Greek football for now.

I believe "whose" is a valid alternative to "who is" as long as you are a Turkish Cypriot but only on a Wednesday in June or July.

 

[schmunk]

I believe "whose" is a valid alternative to "who is" as long as you are a Turkish Cypriot but only on a Wednesday in June or July.

Or if your reffering too things what belong too doctor WHO.

"Those Allen keys are doctor Whose"

 

[phoenix]

I would think twice about that if I were you. The grammar pedants are likely to hijack that thread!

I think everyone has gone Barco mad, so not interested in Greek football for now.

Got to check my copy and paste next time

 

[Not Spanish Dave]

How much is a Greek Urn........... It used to be two and six before decimalisation, I think

 

[Comrade Sam]

Never trust a Turk.

Shit, why didn't you tell me 28 years ago? I would have never started a relationship with my wife!
Also bit simplistic to call the coup by Greek Cypriot fascists and the ensuing bloodletting and vicious civil war as a Turkish land grab.
I assume someone should have warned Mrs Comrade Sam she should never trust a Jew.
Getting back to the thread, looks a real gem.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Shit, why didn't you tell me 28 years ago? I would have never started a relationship with my wife!
Also bit simplistic to call the coup by Greek Cypriot fascists and the ensuing bloodletting and vicious civil war as a Turkish land grab.
I assume someone should have warned Mrs Comrade Sam she should never trust a Jew.
Getting back to the thread, looks a real gem.

It would be churlish and tiny minded of me to not salute you.

 

[sparkie]

So are we signing him then?

Wrong thread.

This is the Cyprus one.

 

[SeagullinExile]

I went to Cyprus once. It was really hot.