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[Politics] Brexit
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nicko31
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More concerned about the survival of our own TBH
The one positive to come from all this is other countries are learning from our mistakes, European unity is getting stronger now the tantrum child is gone
Grombleton
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Is it a dead-between-the-eyes/old man gammon requirement to post on this thread with a YouTube video?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
pastafarian
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I would still vote to remain out of the EU if a re-join referendum came up, it would be as divisive as the last one (cant see parliament wanting one for many years) but nothing could persuade me to willingly choose to allow decision powers to be ceded once again to Brussels in a pooled sovereignty environment. Nothing.
But if the pro membership lobby had somehow successfully persuaded the public to vote in favour of re-joining, despite no more opt outs, no rebate and an accession commitment toward the Euro, and the result was a win for re-join, I would respect that referendum decision and accept the result to re-join.
I would certainly not attempt to stop that referendum decision outcome from happening and would not support resistance to the process of re-joining the EU if re-join had won. If parliament was majority pro staying out of the EU at the time of said re-joining referendum and didn’t like the result the people gave, tried their utmost to make the public vote again or even worse tried to simply say “ screw that, we don’t care what the public voted for, we are going to ignore the decision to re-join and stay out anyway I would be as unhappy as the re-joiners who would be feeling cheated.
I couldn’t foresee anyway stay-outers, following a vote, resisting a referendum decision to re-join and trying to stop it from happening. Please don’t try and tar us with your brush.
Cue the usual suspects who think Farage wanting another go, at some unknown time in the future at overturning the status quo, if leavers ended up losing by a short margin, is the same as ignoring enacting a decision following a vote. It really isnt.
Why that conclusion?,
All he appears to be saying is if there was a re-join referendum he would support the side that didn’t want to re-join during that referendum campaign, its not as if he was saying he would refuse to accept a vote winning decision to re-join as he clearly says he doesn’t believe the rejoiners would be successful anyway. Whats wrong with that?
Baker lite
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Wow! Can’t beat a bit of casual racism in the evening eh?
On our way.
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Klaas
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I've already pointed out to [MENTION=17103]Mo Gosfield[/MENTION] how he should stop keep using that phrase and I reckon if you stop using it as well, that will take out at least half of the ongoing instances of that particular phrase on this board
More than half.
Plenty of them will converse with PPF on here too, not to mention look the other way when racist Brexiters pop up, as they do.
Grombleton
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Not being a snowflake there are you?
Baldseagull
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Is this what the democracy deniers are getting their bum conkers in a twist about?
On our way..
I always had him down as a poundland politician, but 50p does seem more fitting now.
Garry Nelson's teacher
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but that's not true,
regards
DF
Pound to Euro exchange rate:
22nd November 2015 1.42 Euro
3rd June 2016 1.28 Euro
24th January 2020 1.19 Euro
Yep everything's great!
Baker lite
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Garry Nelson's teacher
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Pasta says:
Cue the usual suspects who think Farage wanting another go, at some unknown time in the future at overturning the status quo, if leavers ended up losing by a short margin, is the same as ignoring enacting a decision following a vote. It really isnt
Nigel said:
‘In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.’
Cue the usual suspects who think Farage wanting another go, at some unknown time in the future at overturning the status quo, if leavers ended up losing by a short margin, is the same as ignoring enacting a decision following a vote. It really isnt
Nigel said:
‘In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.’
pastafarian
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So what i said then.
He said before the referendum remain winning by a margin 52-48 would suggest unfinished business.
I reckon with those numbers you could indeed be confident about mounting another campaign and eventually overturning the status quo within a few years, most probably 10 years. At no point did he ever say a decision to remain should be ignored and we should do the opposite to a vote instruction and leave instead.
If remain had won, we would have rightly remained in the EU as per the referendum decision
But there again, dont forget it was a once in a lifetime vote. So in one aspect he should have just lumped it if remain won.
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nicko31
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Question...
Would the parents of our Home Secretary and Chancellor have qualified for entry to the UK under the Tory post Brexit immigration scheme?
Would the parents of our Home Secretary and Chancellor have qualified for entry to the UK under the Tory post Brexit immigration scheme?
nicko31
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Just facts again, in Euro and USD terms UK wages still below 2016 levels.
Grombleton
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nicko31
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Have you asked TP if he will make one final appearance to mark the 31st Jan?
Gammon is not a racist term as racism would require the existence of persecution, and the people the term is usually applied to (middle-aged white British men) are the least persecuted people in human history.
So, do YOU have ny burning questions on Brexit? Why not follow the lead of the BBC and ask this diseased dog...
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Lincoln Imp
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I am afraid you are making things up.
I am not criticising the poster concerned at all, but I had asked Ppf whether, in the event of the public voting to return to the EU, he would resist that happening. Ppf obviously ignored the question but the poster you mentioned said that he would indeed campaign against it happening. This is reasonable in my view, especially as my hypothesis implied that the winning vote was achieved by lies and exaggerations.
I doubt the circumstances would arise but if they did you offer a lovely vision of anti-EU membership campaigners silently by marching in protest, signing petitions, peacefully protesting and carefully invoking the law while JCPasta, 2prof and all the rest leap up and down on here wailing that Dominic Cummins and the rest are lying, cheating, whining, crying hypocritical swamp-dwellers. Can't see it myself.
For reference: If a group of membership-supporters managed to persuade the voting public that returning to the EU would be a surefire route to a land of milk and honey would you sit back and let it all happen, silent apart from a whistle of acceptance?