[Politics] Brexit

[Thunder Bolt]

Well said.

Last week she posted a link to an article saying that we had lost a trade deal with Australia.

When you read the article, it was actually about Australia turning down a suggestion of freedom of movement.

When I pointed this out, she said 'a deal's not a deal until it's agreed'.

That's how negotiations go. One side makes a suggestion, the other rejects it. Doesn't mean the whole deal is dead.

But that doesn't fit in with her narrative.

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No I didn’t. I said Australia rejected it. I never at any point said the whole was dead.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Yes that's right , have you got a problem with that ?
Regards
DF

You ask me if I have a problem with you pontificating about the current atmosphere in the Amex when you admit you haven't been to a match for years? Not really, like almost everyone on this board I've got used to you using total ignorance as a unique selling point.

And of course I am delighted to know that you're nowhere near me when I'm at the Amex.

 

[The Clamp]

People like you should not be let off the hook.

I’m sorry, it’s not my argument but heavens to Betsy, you really are a ceaseless little tit.

 

[Klaas]

Yeah, we have no idea what will happen, lets just wait and see. Brilliant.

Unbelievable isn't it?

Sorry, that's wrong. Completely and depressingly believable.

 

[Springal]

Stupid Brexit Party MEP posts stupid tweet

https://twitter.com/june_mummery/status/1219267050574618626

 

[nicko31]

Stupid Brexit Party MEP posts stupid tweet

https://twitter.com/june_mummery/status/1219267050574618626

Seem he has also asked if she can come back to attend fisheries meetings. You know the ones where Nige attended 1 in 43 and the claimed to the the fishermans friend

You can't make this sh1t up

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yesterday the House of Lords sent three amendments back to the Commons, to the Withdrawal Bill.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all withheld consent to the Withdrawal Bill, but Westminster is ignoring them. So much for uniting the United Kingdom.
Little Englanders, indeed.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

.. and on and on and on ..

In other news

One month before the referendum ..

Brexit would prompt stock market and house price crash, says IMF

Christine Lagarde backs Bank of England governor’s claim that Britain could enter recession after vote to leave EU

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...t-crash-house-price-fall-eu-referendum-brexit

Today ..

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF

Britain’s economy will grow faster than those of other major European countries this year as chief executives regard it as an increasingly attractive place to invest, two studies have found.

Amid growing optimism over Britain’s economic outlook, the International Monetary Fund said that it would outperform the eurozone this year and next.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...aster-than-eurozone-rivals-says-imf-k2h3vbdjm

More grim news ..

https://techround.co.uk/news/uk-tech-sector-beats-us-china-global-growth-2019/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...y-boosts-business-confidence-post-referendum/

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-b...-of-england-nears-rate-decision-idUKKBN1ZJ1DD

 

[nicko31]

So I do not have to do this multiple times I will answer all three as best I can.

I was an ardent remainer, and still believe that the UK would be better in the EU than out. What changed? Firstly the whinging and whining from those who lost the referendum, it was a democratic vote FFS. And anyone saying it was not legally binding would have argued the toss if the result had gone the other way. But that did not make me switch sides. It was the antics of MPs who did everything they could to thwart the will of the electorate, refusing to vote anything that was put in front of them through, and even taking part in legal challenges to the Brexit process. MPs are there to serve not dictate, it was a disgusting abuse of power.

And no doubt somebody will say that I only switched sides so easily because I had nothing to lose. Trust me when I say that the effect the referendum had on the value of the pound when I was moving over here hurt me very substantially.

I cannot put definitives in front of anyone, I do not have a crystal ball. I have not researched any advantages from Brexit as I was on the other side. But there will be advantages, may not as many as there are disadvantages, and it is up to individuals, companies and government to maximise them. Alternatively the UK could just sit and whinge, whilst the rest of the world keeps turning. The decision is taken, make the most of it.

The heart of the stalemate in parliament was the situation with the Irish border, MP's were right to scutinise this and avoid the UK breaking an International Peace treaty, they were doing their job.

In the end Brexit it was either a fudge or threaten the future of the UK by putting customs borders in the Irish sea, Boris chose the latter and demonstrated himself to be a liar and a charlatan.

Yesterday we saw NI, Scotland and Wales assemblies all withheld consent to the Withdrawal Bill, enough said...

So the big question, which Union will last longer the British one or European one?

 

[nicko31]

One month before the referendum ..

Brexit would prompt stock market and house price crash, says IMF

Today ..

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF

Think you need to make your mind up JC, do you believe the IMF or not?

 

[The Clamp]

.. and on and on and on ..

In other news

One month before the referendum ..

Brexit would prompt stock market and house price crash, says IMF

Christine Lagarde backs Bank of England governor’s claim that Britain could enter recession after vote to leave EU

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...t-crash-house-price-fall-eu-referendum-brexit

Today ..

British economy will grow faster than eurozone rivals, says IMF

Britain’s economy will grow faster than those of other major European countries this year as chief executives regard it as an increasingly attractive place to invest, two studies have found.

Amid growing optimism over Britain’s economic outlook, the International Monetary Fund said that it would outperform the eurozone this year and next.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...aster-than-eurozone-rivals-says-imf-k2h3vbdjm

More grim news ..

https://techround.co.uk/news/uk-tech-sector-beats-us-china-global-growth-2019/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...y-boosts-business-confidence-post-referendum/

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-b...-of-england-nears-rate-decision-idUKKBN1ZJ1DD

Sorry, you’re quoting a source you didn’t trust when you didn’t like what they were saying but trust when you do like what they’re saying.
This is why you were so easy to fool.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Sajid Javis - “There will be an impact on business one way or the other, some will benefit, some won’t.”

Good oh. Nice and clear then.

 

[nicko31]

Sajid Javis - “There will be an impact on business one way or the other, some will benefit, some won’t.”

Good oh. Nice and clear then.

Apparently there's no excuse for business now, they've had three and a half years to prepare.

Yes Nissan, Vauxhall, Honda and others are all preparing alright, its called closing and not planning future models in the UK

 

[nicko31]

Yesterday the House of Lords sent three amendments back to the Commons, to the Withdrawal Bill.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all withheld consent to the Withdrawal Bill, but Westminster is ignoring them. So much for uniting the United Kingdom.
Little Englanders, indeed.

English exceptionalism is at the heart of the now defunct Conservative and Unionist party

 

[Springal]

Apparently there's no excuse for business now, they've had three and a half years to prepare.

Yes Nissan, Vauxhall, Honda and others are all preparing alright, its called closing and not planning future models in the UK

I won't say who I work for but our EMEA HQ was the UK. Recently moved our business processing / finance / etc to Ireland and even been awarded a grant of a 'few' Million Euros for doing so. So we are well prepared.

 

[Yoda]

Sajid Javis - “There will be an impact on business one way or the other, some will benefit, some won’t.”

Good oh. Nice and clear then.

I thought Brexit was sold as a great opportunity for ALL?

Now some will benefit, some won't and some will even be impacted for the worse?

Which is it?

 

[wellquickwoody]

Yesterday we saw NI, Scotland and Wales assemblies all withheld consent to the Withdrawal Bill, enough said...

So the big question, which Union will last longer the British one or European one?

Assemblies, not government. Withold consent, poppycock.

 

[nicko31]

I won't say who I work for but our EMEA HQ was the UK. Recently moved our business processing / finance / etc to Ireland and even been awarded a grant of a 'few' Million Euros for doing so. So we are well prepared.

We've learning the difference between thriving and surviving, Ireland, Germany and Netherlands all seem to be doing quite well out of Brexit so far

 

[nicko31]

Assemblies, not government. Withold consent, poppycock.

They have limited power, but ignore them and there will be consequences. With nationalism there are few winners...

 

[Simster]

Stupid Brexit Party MEP posts stupid tweet

https://twitter.com/june_mummery/status/1219267050574618626

You see this and wonder how long it will be before we are clamouring to rejoin.

I am trying not to dip into this depressing thread nowadays but did that article from the Grimsby local paper get copied here? The one claiming leave-voting Grimsby wants a Brexit exemption on sea food:

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/...t-exemption-sought-grimsby-seafood-736984.amp

I mean seriously, are people really this stupid?

I don't know whether we will clamour to rejoin - we won't if the damage is non existent or even simply relatively minor - but I am fairly confident the chances are a lot higher than that of the EU falling apart, which is bizarrely enough what certain leavers insist is going to happen.