Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
I don't know, why did Leavers drive a big bus around promising £350m a week for the NHS ?
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[Politics] Brexit
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I don't know, why did Leavers drive a big bus around promising £350m a week for the NHS ?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Was George Osborne part of the Remain Campaign? What was his position?
He was the Chancellor at the time so he would mention a budget.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Yes. They have missed a trick by omitting Corbyn.
OK, but for the LAST time on this thread ( I must have posted this dozens of times so far ) because .....
I do not believe the aim of ever further and closer European integration is a good one. I believe that the aim just reduces independent countries to vassel states of a political organisation. I believe the EU organisation is fundamentally undemocratic and corrupt. It has forced changes of government. It removes power from the people to politicitians that have affectively been appointed not elected ( Junker as an example ). The EU believe one model fits all ..... it doesn't and the Eurozone and the their ideas on non-EU immigration back this up ( quotas etc ). I believe the EU would rather force a change of government in a country than accept a democratic decision ( Greece and Italy are good examples ). I feel UK values of fair play and democracy are not represented at the EU and so the UK should not be part of the EU.
Was Nigel Farage part of the Leave Campaign ...... ah no ..... yet you endlessly bang on about him in posts. Really TB you are an absolute hypocrite. Maybe you should return to being Yorkie ..... she was far more level headed.
Since when has a back bench MP been able to introduce a budget? Osbourne retained his position as Chancellor of the exchequer for 20 days following the 2016 referendum and all this time (20 days) with a lame duck resigned Prime minister
Fair enough, I don't believe a word of it but I respect your reply.
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Brexit.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
Well-known member
But that's the thing. What promises have leave broken by leave? We haven't left so none?
Why do remian keep predicting things, when previous predictions are completely wrong. Its misleading and wrong.
Both sides do it, but for remain to make an issue out of it, when so many try and blame Brexit on things that have nothing to do with Brexit, and keep making horrible predictions on the future of the country, that are based on nothing but opinions of people that are repeating incorrect, in wrong IMO.
These predictions, warnings, lies etc have so far mainly been false. Why keep making them?
Raleigh Chopper
New member
Can't remember Farage being a chancellor or in any type of position to discuss let alone Hold a budget.
Whatever the outcome it would not surprise me at all if an emergency budget would be called.
Any excuse to pile on more misery and blame it on something else.
It will either be the fault of brexit or the fault of labour from a decade ago.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
There is no salvation in that route because the result will be the same.
Although some cheating individuals have been identified, the mechanisms they used have not been shut down. It'll be the same cheating, different cheats.
And even if the result is different, what will happen ? Farage will tub thump, the yellow vests will get angry, the ilegal funding will continue. We'll be back to this point within a couple of years.
We are lost until the dis-information input is shut down.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Whataboutery at its finest.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Good point. At least she has shown talent in one thing.
You know the old phrase 'You can't please all of the people all the time? ' Well she has turned it on its head.
He made the statement BEFORE the referendum was held.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
Well-known member
But the didn't. They drove a bus that said, we pay £350m to the EU
Lets fund our NHS instead.
That doesn't say that the NHS needs £350m more a week, or we will give that £350m a week. It could mean lets spends part of that money,
Its completely misleading and has been used as a weapon by the same people trying to justify their own misleading comments, like the econemy will crash if we vote to leave the EU, or unemployment will do up if we VOTE to leave the EU. That didn't happen.
Both sides are as guilty as each other for posting half-truths and misleading statements.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I really cannot be bothered to dredge up campaign claims of economic turndown made whilst the campaign was raging. I have no doubt you know what I am referring to.
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Peter Ward
Well-known member
There's a funny silence, while I wait for a reply. All I'm asking for is a reason why you think its a good idea, and then maybe you can persuade me to change my mind.
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Greece and Italy had general elections and the only thing that was forced was the economy as they were part of the euro.
Greece had an election which punished their two main parties for the mess of the economy. They rejected the austerity that was necessary to get them back on track.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/...ns-effort-to-form-a-government-in-greece.html
The second election was called on the basis of accepting the bailout and austerity as proposed by Samaras. He won enough seats for his New Democrat party to form a coaltion and approve the bailout. The voters weren't forced in any way, and had a free vote.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18478982
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
There are tons of reasons people have given in this thread. We keep going over the same old ground. I actually think the thread should be closed as it just attracts bitterness from both sides.
I keep trying to leave it alone but I can't seem to stop myself.
