melias shoes
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- Oct 14, 2010
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He's run away again
What is it with builders and estimates
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Watching the football. Cheerio.
- Jul 10, 2003
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- Jul 10, 2003
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So which part of this nonsense do you think isn't needed ?
How do you see a British (or NI as WTO require a hard border) customs post operating under WTO 'no deal' rules by 20th March 2019 ?
Because you wouldn't be calling for something you don't understand would you.
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And where did I say this ? You're making things up now.
nicko31
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Everyone in England is entitled to an Irish passport....
https://www.irishpost.com/news/ever...orance-over-ireland-in-radio-interview-160840
Tories Brexiteer MP's, gotta love em...
https://www.irishpost.com/news/ever...orance-over-ireland-in-radio-interview-160840
Tories Brexiteer MP's, gotta love em...
Klaas
I've changed this
- Nov 1, 2017
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It beggar's belief that these people have been put in charge of our affairs. I can forgive people doing Maths wrong on air a la Diane Abbot, but this?
Can he claim to know what he voted for?
I think this is one of the most important statements the PM has said in recent weeks. It is clear from this, that in the event that negotiations between UK and EU do not produce an agreement, then the UK will simply not fall into a "No deal" situation. The situation will come back to the House of Commons.
There is certainly no majority for a particular deal, but there is certainly a majority against a "No deal". Tory MPs will not vote for a Election, but I can see a Peoples vote more likely than ever.
I think it was William Hague who said that should hard core Brexiteers push too much, they may end up with no Brexit at all.
nicko31
Well-known member
The EU know this and can just hold there ground and wait, they know May always gives in eventually
Seems like 2 outcomes..
a) May gets a deal at the last minute, finally giving ground. Then a close run thing with parliament and unlikely to get through without a fair few Labour votes
or
b) No deal, parliament reject this and then who knows. If there was People's vote it can't happen fast, will take ages. A50 would need to be extended, we would need European elections again!!!
What a absolute mess the Tories have made of us. Meanwhile inward investment dries up and the Brexit bill goes up and up. Wait for the tax rises to pay for unfunded promises...
The indications coming from the EU suggest they would be happy to extend it. Various heads of government have said, over the past two years, that they don't want the UK to leave and if there were a possibility of the UK remaining, they'd be keen to accommodate that.
- Jul 10, 2003
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It's certainly in the EU's interests to extend because if one of their nearest and largest neighbours were to blow their own brains out (economically), there would still be a hell of a dry cleaning bill.
We saw this all before in the run up to the end of phase 1 negotiations in December last year. At the last minute TM folds and agrees to what the EU want. It was Friday 9th Dec 2017 (the last day of the phase 1 negotiations) that we folded last time, if I remember rightly.
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nicko31
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Yes they might extend A50 in some circumstances, but not just to accommodate government incompetence as it comes with a lot of hassle.
Britain is sick of Brexit but so is the EU, they want to see an end point.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
It seems the swivel eyed Brextremists want Bercow out - as he decides if Parliament get the power to stop a *no deal*.
Let's hope he digs in and doesn't resign to be replaced by an ERG Stooge.
Let's hope he digs in and doesn't resign to be replaced by an ERG Stooge.
It's pretty difficult to remove a Speaker. An MP could call a vote of no confidence (which Bercow may not allow to be raised) but even if he did, the government front bench would be obliged to support him - as would many back benchers (Bercow has been particularly good at raising backbench concerns, so there's goodwill there). Don't forget the ERG are very much a minority (and a small minority at that) in Parliament.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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no speaker, elected by all of parliament, is going to be the stooge of a small group. by convention/rules of the house they keep debate open and support the House over the government.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Cabinet meeting breaks up in minutes, what a surprise. This is going to end in stalemate, which I guess the swivel eyed loonies want thinking that means we exit next March without a deal
So with no support for Chequers and no support for "no deal" at the Commons, and no wiggle room on the Irish border thanks to her DUP chums, May is a busted flush.
Who was it yesterday who likened her to a chess player with just her king remaining, moving all around the board one square at a time waiting for the inevitable to happen? Tremendous analogy and 100% correct. If she doesn't engineer it so that she goes back to the people, she is an idiot. But regardless of that, her party are now proven incompetents and have no business governing the country IMO. They are only there by default.
Who was it yesterday who likened her to a chess player with just her king remaining, moving all around the board one square at a time waiting for the inevitable to happen? Tremendous analogy and 100% correct. If she doesn't engineer it so that she goes back to the people, she is an idiot. But regardless of that, her party are now proven incompetents and have no business governing the country IMO. They are only there by default.
daveinplzen
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- Aug 31, 2018
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Ok mate. You go with that. I'm not the only person who noticed what you were saying. Keep up the good work!
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
She has no moves left, goes one way the EU stop her, goes the other the ERG stop her, goes another the DUP stop her and goes one last way Parliament will stop her. This goes back to triggering Article 50 without having a concrete plan in place, she should have negotiated the withdrawal bill before this and then used the 2 year period to tie up the loose ends of a trade deal.
And Universal Credit has been delayed , what was that about a 'coalition of chaos' and 'strong and stable government'
