[Politics] Brexit

[GT49er]

Shadow minister Tulip Siddiq has resigned from the Labour frontbench, telling the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, that she could not reconcile herself to the party’s three-line whip to vote for triggering article 50.

Awww! ..... generation tulip!

 

[pb21]

What he means is that a majority vote has prevailed ahead of a minority vote, you couldnt make it up really ...

Actually the vast majority don't want a hard Brexit that is undemocratically being foisted onto us. It's the angry vociferous minority who do. You couldn't make it up really...

 

[The Rivet]

Shadow minister Tulip Siddiq has resigned from the Labour frontbench, telling the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, that she could not reconcile herself to the party’s three-line whip to vote for triggering article 50.

That three-lIne whip was never going to work.

The more that Labour are fractured the better. Throwing their toys out of the pram about article 50 still wont get the dissenters what they obviously crave.

 

[melias shoes]

First in line for a trade deal with the big country. Not what the gloomeisters predicted after the vote.

They didn't predict this good news either . In fact the complete opposite .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38755242
Awaits the usual suspects but you only read the headlines blah blah blah. They must really hate it.

 

[BigGully]

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[BigGully]

Actually the vast majority don't want a hard Brexit that is undemocratically being foisted onto us. It's the angry vociferous minority who do. You couldn't make it up really...

Why are you adding the 'vast' bit to the majority, quite simply the referendum was won by Leave and lost by the Remain, adding your own caveats on each Leavers brexit preference as if you really care is irrelevent, you only really want to skew the future direction of Brexit so it might represent your own view, which really isnt the intention of leaving the EU, you will see it as 'hard' and Leavers will see it as appropriate and what was intended.

 

[Eeyore]

To me it is straightforward.

We are leaving the EU. It has to happen.

But.. The terms of the exit are another matter. These need proper debate. Many who voted to stay and leave wanted single market access and the retention of some EU laws ongoing.

There should be no 'hard BREXIT'. I don't believe that is the will of the majority.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Actually the vast majority don't want a hard Brexit that is undemocratically being foisted onto us. It's the angry vociferous minority who do. You couldn't make it up really...

What was the question again on the referendum? Oh yeah, do you want to leave the EU.

In the campaign we were warned countless times of the dangers of voting out and that it would mean leaving the single market. Essentially 'hard Brexit'. It is a myth that emerged from the remain camp that this was somehow never mentioned. This term has been invented anyway as a way that remain politicians can try to water leaving the EU down. It appears you could make it up.

 

[melias shoes]

You really are clutching at straws aren't you? The negotiations will be with one body, the EU. If just one of the 27 other nations think the deal offered to the UK is too generous they can veto it, end of deal. The Maltese have already drawn a line in the sand saying that WHATEVER the deal is, it must be inferior to being part of the club. Good luck everyone.

Then we walk away. Goodbye.

 

[The Rivet]

The change in attitudes by Europhiles across this whole thread has been so insightful. Starting out as arrogant and aloof and deriding anyone with a view to leave they now sound miserable and pathetic. A bit like a child throwing tantrums at the checkout because mommy says no sweets.

 

[melias shoes]

I have Scottish relatives and friends,and none of them believe that they can go it alone or be allowed to join the EU.

I know many Scottish people and not a single one of them would vote to leave the UK.

 

[melias shoes]

Brexiteers see any questioning of article 50 or any process that, regardless of it's crucial role in Brexit, appears to slow Brexit down as high treason and the taking over of democracy by a totalitarian regime. It's democratic process. It takes a bit of time. Honestly, bunch of thin skinned, whinging crybabies. It brings to mind a toddler whose been promised a treat and pesters their Mum for it all shopping trip.
You got your way, now please let the adults sit down and try to make the best of the shambles leave voters have made of the country. It will take a bit of time.

I don't mind waiting for the inevitable. Enjoy your evening.

 

[Buzzer]

You really are clutching at straws aren't you? The negotiations will be with one body, the EU. If just one of the 27 other nations think the deal offered to the UK is too generous they can veto it, end of deal. The Maltese have already drawn a line in the sand saying that WHATEVER the deal is, it must be inferior to being part of the club. Good luck everyone.

What usually happens is that the Germans tell everyone which way to vote. Occasionally countries disagree with this and veto a deal as the Belgian regional government recently did with the EU-Canada trade agreement but then the EU offer sweeteners in exchange for doing as the Germans tell them (like with the aforementioned Belgian regional government).

 

[melias shoes]

Will he grab May "by the pussy?"

Is she taking her cat ?

 

[Soulman]

Why are you adding the 'vast' bit to the majority, quite simply the referendum was won by Leave and lost by the Remain, adding your own caveats on each Leavers brexit preference as if you really care is irrelevent, you only really want to skew the future direction of Brexit so it might represent your own view, which really isnt the intention of leaving the EU, you will see it as 'hard' and Leavers will see it as appropriate and what was intended.

in a nutshell.

 

[melias shoes]

What usually happens is that the Germans tell everyone which way to vote. Occasionally countries disagree with this and veto a deal as the Belgian regional government recently did with the EU-Canada trade agreement but then the EU offer sweeteners in exchange for doing as the Germans tell them (like with the aforementioned Belgian regional government).

She usually gets her way in the end.

 

[melias shoes]

To me it is straightforward.

We are leaving the EU. It has to happen.

But.. The terms of the exit are another matter. These need proper debate. Many who voted to stay and leave wanted single market access and the retention of some EU laws ongoing.

There should be no 'hard BREXIT'. I don't believe that is the will of the majority.

We was told Leave means Leave. No one I know who voted leave wanted to stay in it a bit...... So to speak. Out.

 

[melias shoes]

Corbyn says he will impose a three line whip... interesting as several of his front bench have said they will refuse to vote for Article 50.

That's because deep down we all know Corbyn wants out.

 

[GT49er]

Actually the vast majority don't want a hard Brexit that is undemocratically being foisted onto us. It's the angry vociferous minority who do. You couldn't make it up really...

Good to hear from someone with incredible blind faith in his/her ability to know what the vast majority want. Have you been an MP for long?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

She usually gets her way in the end.

A strong leader and negotiator.