[Politics] Brexit

[Herr Tubthumper]

another pointless exercise,vote down the exit plan then its back to the drawing board, vote down the next exit plain then its back to the drawing board again......until time runs out then its OUT with no negotiated framework for any future relationship at all.....this does seem to be the aim of the remain side for some bizarre reason.

i know there is no such thing as a "hard " brexit
that is just another lie invented by the moaners after the vote to continue the lies they are pushing to the public.....none off you have the balls to admit it even though the rest of us can see right through it.

Are you deliberately being obtuse because I don't think you're stupid? Your first paragraph shows a total lack of understanding of how parliament works. Okay, I'll explain. If you try and push through a load of nonsense which the elected MPs don't agree with then it will repeatedly be rejected. The key is to propose something which will meet a majority agreement. This is how it works. One has to ask why you are so keen to run rough-shod over the UK's tried and trusted democratic process and have a decision taken by an unelected person. This is after all what you have repeatedly accused the EU off and fought so hard to remove yourself from.

As for hard Brexit again, are you being obtuse? Most people know this term implies and it's the opposite end of the spectrum which has the EAA at the other end i.e. A much harder and absolute severing of ties. It's not a lie....it's simple terminology.

 

[pastafarian]

Are you deliberately being obtuse because I don't think you're stupid? Your first paragraph shows a total lack of understanding of how parliament works. Okay, I'll explain. If you try and push through a load of nonsense which the elected MPs don't agree with then it will repeatedly be rejected. The key is to propose something which will meet a majority agreement. This is how it works. One has to ask why you are so keen to run rough-shod over the UK's tried and trusted democratic process and have a decision taken by an unelected person. This is after all what you have repeatedly accused the EU off and fought so hard to remove yourself from.

you keep forgetting there is another party in the negotiations who are not interested on how our parliament votes, The EU will conduct themselves according to their own agenda and will not pay a blind bit of notice to what happens in our parliament

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

you keep forgetting there is another party in the negotiations who are not interested on how our parliament votes, The EU will conduct themselves according to their own agenda and will not pay a blind bit of notice to what happens in our parliament

Can you answer my question.

 

[pastafarian]

Can you answer my question.

what question? i cant see one.
if there is one ill answer it after my somewhat late dinner.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

The key is to propose something which will meet a majority. One has to ask why you are so keen to run rough-shod over the UK's tried and trusted democratic process and have a decision taken by an unelected person. This is after all what you have repeatedly accused the EU off and fought so hard to remove yourself from.

Two points,the first is not once but twice the MPs voted for giving a Referendum-

The 2nd is,Labour & Brown? Although having ruined the country(Labour that is) and being a Scot,it was clear he was not to last..

I assume Mrs May is the -unelected? by her party she was elected,her party was elected in the last general election,finally going back to Brown,he was elected by Labour,whom in turn were elected by the public in the general election..

If i am correct-no rules have been broken anywhere..

As for hard Brexit,it's a loose term,i prefer this-

 

[nicko31]

another pointless exercise,vote down the exit plan then its back to the drawing board, vote down the next exit plain then its back to the drawing board again......until time runs out then its OUT with no negotiated framework for any future relationship at all.....this does seem to be the aim of the remain side for some bizarre reason.

i know there is no such thing as a "hard " brexit
that is just another lie invented by the moaners after the vote to continue the lies they are pushing to the public.....none off you have the balls to admit it even though the rest of us can see right through it.

It does make me laugh when the Beeb gets accused of being left wing when they employ the like the Andrew Neil

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

what question? i cant see one.
if there is one ill answer it after my somewhat late dinner.

Post 25135, you see the text which says "One has to ask"

Can't see a question, can't answer now due to late dinner eh. Some might see this as buying yourself time to think up an answer or maybe even trying to avoid the question all together. I'll take these sincerely and at face value and wait.

 

[studio150]

I think 'the poor friendless UK '(good grief) will get a mutually beneficial trade deal with the US which will be a dam sight better than the EU one that has taken forever and is probably dead in the water. As Trump ia a huge fan of the UK and believes Brexit was the right choice expect ours to be all signed and sealed within 2 years of us leaving.*











* assuming we all don't die in a thermonuclear fireball

What's this a leaver looking into the future and commenting on what they expect to happen as opposed to burying their heads in the sand and sayingthey dont speculate on events that havent happened.

Wow I've had to have a drink due to this historic event.

Personally I think you time line of 2021 won't be achievable and it will take longer.

 

[The Maharajah of Sydney]

The "Hard Brexit" news over the weekend has seen the Pound gap down 2c to below $1.20 on the opening of FX Markets here in Sydney this morning - currently $1.1997

 

[Baldseagull]

I do honestly believe if that came about the percentage win would be greater for Brexit.

You may well be right, for me I would like the remain campaign to actually lay out the benefits of our membership, and for leave to have a set of fixed principles, as different campaigners had different visions of what out would mean.
Good luck with the op by the way.

 

[Two Professors]

Well let's hope the people of Botswana are gagging to buy our stuff. Meanwhile, I read somewhere that the Australian government has said that a trade deal with the EU is a much greater priority than one with the UK. You can kind of understand why.

I dare say the people of Botswana already do buy British equipment to mine their diamonds,although why you chose them out of the Commonwealth I cannot imagine.Perhaps you read somewhere that they consider a trade deal with the EU a greater priority,or perhaps they might be one of the many countries the EU has under embargo .How's the EU trade deal with the USA looking?Probably be signed the day Brandenburg airport opens-never.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I think you are overestimating the Donald. Any deal would have to be heavily leveraged in favour of The USA or he will quickly accused of betraying his election " manifesto ". The Ego has landed and we should all be afraid.

You mean his manifesto about returning jobs to the US. We don't present a mass cheap Labour threat undercutting US workers it's the Mexicans and Chinese that have most to worry about . He also isn't a fan of trade block deals .. bi lateral agreements are back in fashion rather fortuitously for the UK.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

2 years? The way Trump operates you could have a trade deal agreed in seconds via Twitter.

Funnily enough, Farage (Trumps second favourite Brit after the Queen) suggested it would only take a few months

 

[Baldseagull]

Funnily enough, Farage (Trumps second favourite Brit after the Queen) suggested it would only take a few months

It's easy to do a shitty deal quickly, it will take time to get the right deal. Time we may not have, so we may end up with the quick shitty deal.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

You mean that system that the electorate democratically voted to keep by a two thirds majority? You really don't like democratic outcomes, do you?!

Well if you're suggesting I haven't liked the outcome of many elections I've voted in then you're right. An odd point to make.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What's this a leaver looking into the future and commenting on what they expect to happen as opposed to burying their heads in the sand and sayingthey dont speculate on events that havent happened.

Wow I've had to have a drink due to this historic event.

Personally I think you time line of 2021 won't be achievable and it will take longer.

I would have thought you would have learnt by now that my crystal ball is a lot better than any on your side of the argument.

Deciphering some of your past arguments/posts I always assumed you were drinking

 

[Lincoln Imp]

First past the post Brexit would look like this
https://www.quora.com/If-referendum...st-the-post-sytem-would-Brexit-still-have-won
67.7% for Leave (i am confused).

I am sorry to hear you're confused. What about?

 

[The Rivet]

The only assault on democracy is from hard Lefties who want to shut down any opinion outside of their own. Anyone wanting the result overturned is asking for that to happen in a anachristic way. You fear not getting the result you want second time around, or fear allowing the Parliament, whose sovereignty you so wish to protect, to apply their sovereignty and have a say that might go against your view, and you fear it because you feel that democracy would not give you what you want, and you don't want to take that risk. So say we EU loving pleps. Amen

Love you Baldy................

 

[JC Footy Genius]

It's easy to do a shitty deal quickly, it will take time to get the right deal. Time we may not have, so we may end up with the quick shitty deal.

You know when you said your ongoing negativity might seem a bit OTT /annoying ....

Seriously though, a bilateral deal between two close Allies, both eager to make a deal, should be easier and quicker than accommodating 27 other interests. Many diametrically opposed to ours.

 

[The Rivet]

It does make me laugh when the Beeb gets accused of being left wing when they employ the like the Andrew Neil

Blimey!