[Politics] Brexit

[East Preston Gull]

Who needs to be working with people like this, glad we left. They are not speaking for the European people, they are only speaking for a select group of highly paid bureaucrats and politicians who don't like the fact that somebody has finally said no to them. At the core of this organisation these people are a bunch of bullies who will never admit their own faults. They have ruined the quality of life for millions of normal Europeans because of their austerity measures and uncontrolled migration. One flag, one set of rules with no deviation or we face consequences, sounds like more of a dictatorship not one of friendly co-operation. The EU don't own me.

Post of the day! Well said

Drunken, unelected Mr Junket and his childish smirks and shoulder shrugs.

Article 50 triggered this week, offer the EU countries a free trade deal with us if they want it.

Job done!

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[Soulman]

Post of the day! Well said

Drunken, unelected Mr Junket and his childish smirks and shoulder shrugs.

Article 50 triggered this week, offer the EU countries a free trade deal with us if they want it.

Job done!

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ASAP.
Deutsche Bank has been wobbly for a year now. Back in July, it announced a slump in profits and revenues. Back in February, the Bank’s co-CEO John Cryan put out a statement re-assuring staff and investors that the institution was ‘rock solid’ amid an earlier slide in the share price. Anyone whose memory stretches back a whole eight years will know that is the kind of thing bank CEOs say about three minutes before the whole thing goes pop.
Ever since then, the news has gone from bad to worse. Deutsche has struggled to cuts costs and restore profitability, legal challenges have mounted, and then earlier this month the US Justice Department hit the bank with a $14 billion fine over sales of mortgage securities. In its pomp, Deutsche could have written out a cheque with a nonchalant shrug.

 

[cunning fergus]

ASAP.
Deutsche Bank has been wobbly for a year now. Back in July, it announced a slump in profits and revenues. Back in February, the Bank’s co-CEO John Cryan put out a statement re-assuring staff and investors that the institution was ‘rock solid’ amid an earlier slide in the share price. Anyone whose memory stretches back a whole eight years will know that is the kind of thing bank CEOs say about three minutes before the whole thing goes pop.
Ever since then, the news has gone from bad to worse. Deutsche has struggled to cuts costs and restore profitability, legal challenges have mounted, and then earlier this month the US Justice Department hit the bank with a $14 billion fine over sales of mortgage securities. In its pomp, Deutsche could have written out a cheque with a nonchalant shrug.

Not just Deutsche Bank but Commerzbank has troubles too.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/commerzbank-could-trim-around-9-082630855.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/23/deutsche-bank-to-shut-188-german-branches-cut-3000-staff.html

For the record I am not glorifying in their difficulties, this country is the last one to take any delight in difficulties for international banks, however it merely demonstrates the wider complexities in financial services in Europe.

If UK banks were making similar levels if redundancies due to structural problems we know it would not be long before the rabid piss soaked pant wearing reactionaries would be pointing to Brexit and the end of days.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

All EU states have a right to participate as a member, or leave the EU. It's a fundamental right. Or do you think otherwise? Were we to continue in our membership of the EU, I would imagine we'd be enthusiastic for a deal with Canada. It makes sense.

There is still a small chance the deal can be rescued but the problems highlight the difficulty of reaching unanimity with 28 competing states.

See as we have voted Leave we should circumnavigate the EU,got to WTO suffer in the short term and have our own deal with Canada....

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Post of the day! Well said

Drunken, unelected Mr Junket and his childish smirks and shoulder shrugs.

Article 50 triggered this week, offer the EU countries a free trade deal with us if they want it.

Job done!

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We could offer,yes but it's like me offering to take Liz Hurley out on a date..

 

[studio150]

Good post

So you do want people to be poorer. Cheap labour means lower wages a cheap currency means higher import costs higher fuel costs which hit ths lower paid more.

Therefore you do disagree with Hammond.

But poverty is great for everyone because we have our country back.

 

[Soulman]

So you do want people to be poorer. Cheap labour means lower wages a cheap currency means higher import costs higher fuel costs which hit ths lower paid more.

Therefore you do disagree with Hammond.

But poverty is great for everyone because we have our country back.

I do not think people will be poorer, i think the cheap labour has been coming here for the last decade or more, which has made our lower paid poorer, the thing i will agree with you on is " great for everyone because we have our country back."
Try another angle, this is your opinion, no proof and just trying to lay a supposed guilt trip.

 

[yxee]

So you do want people to be poorer. Cheap labour means lower wages a cheap currency means higher import costs higher fuel costs which hit ths lower paid more.

Therefore you do disagree with Hammond.

But poverty is great for everyone because we have our country back.

Same boring argument recycled again and again. Manipulative economics 101. Focus on the most negative theory, ignore all else.

 

[studio150]

I do not think people will be poorer, i think the cheap labour has been coming here for the last decade or more, which has made our lower paid poorer, the thing i will agree with you on is " great for everyone because we have our country back."
Try another angle, this is your opinion, no proof and just trying to lay a supposed guilt trip.

So your view is that a lower GBP does not mean higher import costs or higher fuel costs given that oil is priced in USD.

Why do you believe this to be the case

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So your view is that a lower GBP does not mean higher import costs or higher fuel costs given that oil is priced in USD.

Why do you believe this to be the case

Those are negatives would you also acknowledge the positives ..

Good for exports

Increased tourism

Foreign investment cheaper

Reducing financial incentive for largescale immigration

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Cheap labour means lower wages

A "Remain" OG folks.....as you were

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

A "Remain" OG folks.....as you were

I spotted that as well but must have been feeling generous as the Albion had won, and ignored it.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I spotted that as well but must have been feeling generous as the Albion had won, and ignored it.

Well,i was thinking as i logged on,just how fair the debates will be all the while we keep doing well........with some exceptions..UTA

They will probably say that the City of London gets the best "minds" and that if they do well we do well,as an off set or some excuse......trouble is the average man and woman in the street.........rare for them to see the fruits.

 

[Soulman]

So your view is that a lower GBP does not mean higher import costs or higher fuel costs given that oil is priced in USD.

Why do you believe this to be the case

I believe when we finally Brexit, make our own trade deals, that our import costs will not be higher. Why should our "GBP" necessarily be higher once out.

 

[studio150]

I believe when we finally Brexit, make our own trade deals, that our import costs will not be higher. Why should our "GBP" necessarily be higher once out.

And at the current time ?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I believe when we finally Brexit, make our own trade deals, that our import costs will not be higher. Why should our "GBP" necessarily be higher once out.

Can you answer the passport question?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

And at the current time ?

He doesn't do answers. See the highly amusing posts yesterday; [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] totally owned his sorry ass.

 

[sir albion]

Who needs to be working with people like this, glad we left. They are not speaking for the European people, they are only speaking for a select group of highly paid bureaucrats and politicians who don't like the fact that somebody has finally said no to them. At the core of this organisation these people are a bunch of bullies who will never admit their own faults. They have ruined the quality of life for millions of normal Europeans because of their austerity measures and uncontrolled migration. One flag, one set of rules with no deviation or we face consequences, sounds like more of a dictatorship not one of friendly co-operation. The EU don't own me.

Spot on..
They couldn't give a flying fack about the people of Europe and it's clear to see Europe has been destroyed of its individual identity with every country that's joined it.Its run by a bunch of self centred twats who get paid hideous amounts for very little...2 billion a year on wages alone and maybe just maybe this is why many politicians want their countries in the EU as its the next step for a big pay rise.

How people think the EU is a great thing is beyond belief as they like you say bully everyone and want to swamp Europe with cheap labour that only benefits the big business and the corporate buffoons.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

He doesn't do answers. See the highly amusing posts yesterday; [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] totally owned his sorry ass.

I'm not sure why Soulman should be expected to answer or justify specific comments/questions any more than any other person on these tedious Brexit threads. For instance I'm not bothered that my query in post #1362 hasn't been or that silly OTT comments are made, such as 'this country is collapsing around our ears' or the (UK) 'economy is in chaos' without any substantive, credible evidence.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I'm not sure why Soulman should be expected to answer or justify specific comments/questions any more than any other person on these tedious Brexit threads. For instance I'm not bothered that my query in post #1362 hasn't been or that silly OTT comments are made, such as 'this country is collapsing around our ears' or the (UK) 'economy is in chaos' without any substantive, credible evidence.

# they're still sulking
regards
DR