[Politics] Brexit

[nicko31]

Theresa, think long and hard. Our UK Automotive manufacturing is our biggest manufacturing export. Tata and BMW will not get nostalgic over British brands if the numbers don't add up

https://www.ft.com/content/8858900c-854c-11e6-8897-2359a58ac7a5

And don't think a north atlantic peso will save the day

 

[Mental Lental]

Basically it's a lot of sore losers grasping at straws. This challenge has been known about for some time it's just the 'Independent' (such a poorly named paper) dressing up failure with false hope.

Other news institutions are also running the story...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...uments-article-50-procedure-peoples-challenge

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...peoples-challenge_uk_57c49532e4b0cc2b92b12050

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/71...e-brexit-government-legal-article-50-campaign

The express article is written from a brexit perspective. They do mention that there was a vote in parliament to have the referendum in the first place, and as such the result is legally binding with regards to leaving the EU without further parliamentary action.

Having said that, even though parliament voted for the referendum act, the act makes no provision for the result to be legally binding on the government or on any future government due to the principle of parliamentary sovereignty. Even if it's just Falmeresqueian delay tactics going on it looks like they would probably be able to delay article 50 until the next election.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Even if it's just Falmeresqueian delay tactics going on it looks like they would probably be able to delay article 50 until the next election.[/QUOTE]


....and run the risk of the biggest political voting backlash in British history?.

 

[Mental Lental]

...and run the risk of the biggest political voting backlash in British history?.

Maybe they're hoping that a general election with an EU in/out platform would settle this shit for once and for all.

 

[ManOfSussex]

In any case, if it went to a parliamentary vote, I believe it likely that mps would back the referendum vote.

I agree with you. With the storm and backlash it would cause by voting against the referendum in parliament, how many MP's would vote against the wishes of their constituents with a general election to follow?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Maybe they're hoping that a general election with an EU in/out platform would settle this shit for once and for all.

No, no need for a EU in out platform at the next election. We have already had a bellyful if that. Otherwise what was there point of the referendum? The next election will be fought on the early results of Brexit.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Theresa, think long and hard. Our UK Automotive manufacturing is our biggest manufacturing export. Tata and BMW will not get nostalgic over British brands if the numbers don't add up

https://www.ft.com/content/8858900c-854c-11e6-8897-2359a58ac7a5

And don't think a north atlantic peso will save the day

Nissan commits to building new model.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...t-as-it-invests-100m-in-Sunderland-plant.html

 

[Mental Lental]

No, no need for a EU in out platform at the next election. We have already had a bellyful if that. Otherwise what was there point of the referendum? The next election will be fought on the early results of Brexit.

Well they'll have to get a move on with Article 50 if they want to be out of Europe and with quantifiable, visible "results" from said outage by 2020.

Tick tock.

 

[The Clamp]

It takes on average, 7-10 years to broker international trade deals. We have to establish this with 50 countries. The true scale of this mistake hasn't even been glimpsed yet.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Fox is all over the place. No vote for the tories from me at next election

UK exports of goods to the EU in 2015 accounted for 47% of total goods exports. According to the NIESR, EU goods exports to the UK account for about 16% of its total exports of goods

 

[pb21]

Fox is all over the place. No vote for the tories from me at next election

UK exports of goods to the EU in 2015 accounted for 47% of total goods exports. According to the NIESR, EU goods exports to the UK account for about 16% of its total exports of goods

Given his history Fox shouldn't be anywhere near the negotiation table IMO. I really wouldn't be confident whose interests he would be representing.

 

[Two Professors]

Fox is all over the place. No vote for the tories from me at next election

UK exports of goods to the EU in 2015 accounted for 47% of total goods exports. According to the NIESR, EU goods exports to the UK account for about 16% of its total exports of goods

Not too far from being accurate figures,but if you look where the main part of the sales come from within the EU,it gives a more balanced view.

 

[nicko31]

Nissan commits to building new model.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...t-as-it-invests-100m-in-Sunderland-plant.html

We can't count our chickens yet, Nissan could well demand state subsidies for new investment..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...compensation-deal-before-making-uk-investmen/

Did anyone in Sunderland vote to leave?

 

[nicko31]

Fox is all over the place. No vote for the tories from me at next election

UK exports of goods to the EU in 2015 accounted for 47% of total goods exports. According to the NIESR, EU goods exports to the UK account for about 16% of its total exports of goods

Foxy should have stuck to being a GP, he's on another planet, Bring on the exciting new trades deals, forget Europe...

 

[The Rivet]

My god this thread is insane. Speculation ( like the 'expert analysis' during the ref) is getting extremely irritating. It doesn't take anyone other than a poker player to understand speculation. Are you a coward unable or unwilling to take risks or are you optimistic and can work out an opportunity when you see one. This thread has certainly exposed those who cant and those that can. I know months of this argumentative bollocks are coming but at what purpose? New referendum impossible. Overturning a democratic vote impossible. Getting an agreement in a timely fashion with the EU impossible. Call it soon or continue to pay into this shite pile called the EU until 2025.
Politics sometimes makes my blood boil. It's just an excuse to slow down the majority wishes in whatever field it may be.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Not too far from being accurate figures,but if you look where the main part of the sales come from within the EU,it gives a more balanced view.
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Oh I am pleased you're back. Last time you were around you were talking about newspapers and asked me which ones I read. I told you, and asked which was your journal of choice. I'm genuinely interested. Do tell.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Not too far from being accurate figures,but if you look where the main part of the sales come from within the EU,it gives a more balanced view.

The important point is though that they all have to sign up to any trade deal with us. Countries such as Luxembourg have little vested interest to do so.

 

[The Rivet]

Oh I am pleased you're back. Last time you were around you were talking about newspapers and asked me which ones I read. I told you, and asked which was your journal of choice. I'm genuinely interested. Do tell.

Childish Lincoln Imp, childish. Most sane people read a variety of MSM and also review private and other reports and make up their own minds as you may do. You try to 'points score' like a fat nerdy spotty 11yr old in the school playground.

 

[The Rivet]

David Dimbleby on QT. 'We all have much respect for Ken Clarke' Speak for yourself David. A lot do not respect him.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Nissan commits to building new model.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...t-as-it-invests-100m-in-Sunderland-plant.html

Have you read that article? When is it dated?