[Politics] Brexit

[Mo Gosfield]

It was an advisory, non-binding referendum. The government and the UK parliament can choose to recognise it or not. The ultimate decision lies with them.

If they reject the majority will of the people, there will be social unrest in this country, the like of which has never been seen before. Plus, why did the PM resign if it was non-binding?

 

[Mo Gosfield]

was the EU exit vote by referendum a vote and an instruction to the Government to stop free movement of EU nationals into the UK?

It was from some people. It was less of an issue with many others. Controlling our own destiny was the predominant factor with many and a complete dislike of the bureaucratic monolith that Brussels has become. Many people also feel that the EU has a limited future and that pulling out now gives us more time to regroup.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

You are right on this part, the trouble is when you have politicians who are so pro EU and fail to recognise the problems within the EU, there is never going to be any fundamental change. They don't have to live with the decisions.

..." turkeys voting for Christmas "

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

was the EU exit vote by referendum a vote and an instruction to the Government to stop free movement of EU nationals into the UK?

That wasn't the question on my ballot paper.

 

[BadFish]

You are right on this part, the trouble is when you have politicians who are so pro EU and fail to recognise the problems within the EU, there is never going to be any fundamental change. They don't have to live with the decisions.

It is really quite simple, if I don't get the reforms I want I will just have to vote for UKIP in the next GE.

Can I also add, business has a massive part to play in this. Take for example a supplier, instead of rushing to China why can't the government invest a bit of money in manufacturing companies and look at getting products manufactured here. There are not enough of these types of jobs anymore, which is why people are feeling left out.

I agree here. especially the party about manufacturing in the UK. Why not start to produce goods and services in the countries/areas that they are going to be used. Save money on transport and movement, increase employment and save the environment. It is a win win win. A political party offering this sort of simple logic to provide growth would get my vote.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I agree here. especially the party about manufacturing in the UK. Why not start to produce goods and services in the countries/areas that they are going to be used. Save money on transport and movement, increase employment and save the environment. It is a win win win. A political party offering this sort of simple logic to provide growth would get my vote.

They would get my vote too, however what we see from our political parties is a sense that we are not good enough anymore, that they have thrown in the towel with manufacturing in this country, which is why we now have more take away outlets than manufacturing companies.

These political parties are negative, it makes me and millions of other people negative.
They can find money to shore up the banks, but they can't find money to promote manufacturing in this country.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Osbourne to make statement at 7.00am

That's George not Ozzy.

 

[nicko31]

Well looks like no winners in this at all. Boris has slept on it woken up back in the real world.

 

[BadFish]

They would get my vote too, however what we see from our political parties is a sense that we are not good enough anymore, that they have thrown in the towel with manufacturing in this country, which is why we now have more take away outlets than manufacturing companies.

These political parties are negative, it makes me and millions of other people negative.
They can find money to shore up the banks, but they can't find money to promote manufacturing in this country.

I am not sure what is going to happen but I think that a return to manufacturing in the UK would be a wonderful thing. Maybe the Labour party can get their shit together and start representing the people they are supposed to and revitalise some of the areas that have been let go to waste. If the referendum gets these sort of ideas an airing then it will have been a good thing.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Maybe he will steal Cameron's line 'Calm down, Calm down dear'.

 

[Hugo Rune]

If Boris Johnson is the next PM, I'd imagine he'd except freedom of movement (with some restrictions against future EU members such as Turkey) in exchange for free trade. Things aren't going to change dramatically unless we get Farage as PM.

 

[vegster]

I have a bad feeling that whatever he says the crash will continue.

 

[Bladders]

That's George not Ozzy.

Shame

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

From what I gather, if we do it over again, the view is the non racist, rational leave voters will riot in the streets. So what me must do is plough ahead with a bad decision and make the best of it. This is likely to involve a deal where we still pay a shedload of cash into the E.U., but now we have to trust our Government to spend the savings on all the good stuff the E.U. gave grants for, still have free movement of labour, but now we are not E.U. citizens so have less rights in Europe, Still have to comply with most of E.U. regulations, which now we have no say in forming, but apparently we have greater sovereignty?
Sounds to me like we get to have all the stuff the Leave campaign said it would get rid of, but none of the benefits we used to have, except maybe we can land a few more fish than they would otherwise allow.

If democracy is the will of the people, I can take that, but when the outcome is not what the people voted for, how is that democracy?

The outcome was to LEAVE the EU. The question was do you want to remain or leave. Quite simple really. The question wasn't anything to do with the economic situation nor did it all anything about the state of our parties.

And as for rational, I'm sure there has never been such a large outpouring of 'it's not fair, they cheated, we don't like the result, they shouldn't be allowed to vote, this isn't really democracy as they didn't know the facts, the people who voted leave are thick, they are racist, it was old people who caused this problem, they are old they shouldn't have a vote, etc etc etc.

Absolutely pathetic whinging, moaning and crying from some people in the remain camp. They should look at the new political reality and take a leaf from the book of those MPs on question time yesterday who all advised, whether they liked the result or not, that the British people had democratically spoken and that their wishes should be adhered to.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Shame

It would have been more entertaining.

 

[Scotchegg]

This has been my perception of what is happening. Does anyone have evidence to the contrary?

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Tumbleweed

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It shows me everything that is wrong with our economy. How many more takeaways can we open to tip the balance?

 

[skipper734]

Good speech George.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Key words.

Systematically
Collectively
Contingency
British are fundamental strong
We are open for business
Completely focussed
Stabilise
Accept and deliver.

Sounds positive to me, how do the bed wetters feel

 

[pb21]

Technically, no it wasn't.

However some (the majority?) of the leave vote will have assumed that it was (particularly given how it was sold by the Brexit team) and voted on that basis.