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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
The country can't be fixed until the Cult of Johnson is kicked out of power. That means all his acolytes as well.

The thing with Johnson he's not just amoral, he's corrupt, he lies, he's lazy and above the BS, he just not very good at his job. An epic failure
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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If it wasn't so tragic I'd laugh.

Das Reich is on Seaford beach as I type, with his pitchfork, feeling freer, even though his income has fallen and his costs gone up. Blaming the unions, no doubt.

Well....I'm OK. I have money. I voted remain. Leavers struggling? Fück you. Deal with it. You voted for it.

And it will get even worse if the UK follows through with whelching on the NI Protocol. Who would then trust the UK? And just a handful of carefully chosen punitive trade tariffs will bring huge parts of the UK to it's knees. The will of the people.
 


nicko31

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And it will get even worse if the UK follows through with whelching on the NI Protocol. Who would then trust the UK? And just a handful of carefully chosen punitive trade tariffs will bring huge parts of the UK to it's knees. The will of the people.

NI protocol... 50 Tories abstaining, then there's the Lords.

Wastes loads of time and energy, will gain nothing and erodes trust in the UK government as a trade partner

NI is a nightmare for them, the usual laggard of the UK economy is booming thanks to EU SM access.
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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NI protocol... 50 Tories abstaining, then there's the Lords.

Wastes loads of time and energy, will gain nothing and erodes trust in the UK government as a trade partner

NI is a nightmare for them, the usual laggard of the UK economy is booming thanks to EU SM access.

I understand work is already underway to pre-empt 'the lords issue' on the NIP ???
 






cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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And it will get even worse if the UK follows through with whelching on the NI Protocol. Who would then trust the UK? And just a handful of carefully chosen punitive trade tariffs will bring huge parts of the UK to it's knees. The will of the people.



This is extremely fanciful, however in the parallel universe of people scarred by BREXIT I can appreciate the idea of the EU bringing large parts of the U.K. to its knees is the ultimate money shot. Every negative headline about the U.K. will be used to stimulate that fetish, every positive headline about the U.K. a stinging whack across the bare buttocks from a tawse wielded by an Aaron Banks look-a-like.

In the world of the adults though, because of the EU’s wrong headed approach to energy supply it is for the moment fully reliant on support from the U.K., and with gas reserves in the North Sea the U.K. will be part of the medium to long term solution to a stable gas supply in the EU. This cooperation is underway.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9544/CBP-9544.pdf

Hence, in the real world the U.K. is actually helping large parts of the EU off its knees.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-energy-exports-to-europe-at-record-high-zlhrsd0xk

The only supporters of “punitive” tariffs on the U.K. in respect of the NIP would frankly be dumpkopfs not alive to the real political risks associated with such a strategy. Even more so because if we turned off the gas taps to the EU the Irish would freeze.
 




cunning fergus

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Have they threatened to get Chris Pincher good and drunk and let him loose among the benches?


As a single man he is surely entitled to sow his oats?

Indeed given the increased demographic of sexual degenerates in the establishment it surely wouldn’t be long before he’s in his leather gimp suit, balls deep in some SPAD, with a noose around his neck and a Brazilian rent boy looking for a British passport up his arse?

It would hardly be a surprise would it?
 




WATFORD zero

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As a single man he is surely entitled to sow his oats?

Indeed given the increased demographic of sexual degenerates in the establishment it surely wouldn’t be long before he’s in his leather gimp suit, balls deep in some SPAD, with a noose around his neck and a Brazilian rent boy looking for a British passport up his arse?

It would hardly be a surprise would it?

For the fist time on this thread, it appears that you are actually posting from a basis of some sort of knowledge or expertise.

I suppose it was bound to happen eventually. Monkeys, Typewriters, and all that :lolol:
 




vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Herr Tubthumper

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I have to say I never had you down as a mattress damper like some on here, but your matratze ist durchnursst!

As for this fatal accident you speak of, you must be confused, the incident I was commenting on in Berlin a few weeks ago was a deliberate act of violence. You may have missed it, but some prick drove a car at nearly 100mph onto the pavement and straight into pedestrians.

What happened in the accident?

There’s a poster on the Danish gunman thread with friends and family in Copenhagen; maybe you could go and goad them as well?
 




cunning fergus

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There’s a poster on the Danish gunman thread with friends and family in Copenhagen; maybe you could go and goad them as well?


Don’t worry, if that poster (or anyone else) has referenced such an event as an “accident” then I would happily fire off a good old fashioned goad.
 




cunning fergus

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More foodbanks than McDonalds in the UK. Taking back control of the food industry with domestic demand rather than US companies. Yes more sunlit uplands

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/food-bank-britain-inside-the-nations-newest-emergency-service-v5mdqncgt


Given current trends if there is one thing this country needs to sort out urgently, then it’s our fatties especially in the most deprived areas.

We are an outlier compared to our European peers, the gap in overweight and obesity rates between children from the least and most affluent families in the UK is larger than any EU country (26 points compared to the EU average of 8 percentage points).

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/press/press-releases/new-analysis-stark-inequalities-obesity-england

This obsession with institutions that provide food for free to the poor should be reviewed, and certainly as far as our fat b@stards are concerned. Given the stress obesity is putting on the NHS it’s better to be cruel than kind, regardless of what Sir Marcus has to say.
 


Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
5,443
Making Brexit work.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer will vow not to take the UK back into the single market or restore freedom of movement as he sets out his plan to “make Brexit work”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/labour-brexit-northern-ireland-protocol-prime-minister-northern-ireland-b2114948.html

A different Brexit can certainly work better, but economically it will not make up for what some of us willingly gave up, apparently on behalf of all of us.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
I'm appalled by this.

I hope he gets a Durham fine and resigns. Lol.

Anyway at least it solves my vote Lib Dem vs vote Labour dilemma :rock:
I really can't see how Starmer can make Brexit " work " ..its utterly impossible. The only hope is that the next government tries to make it work, accepts they can't make it work and then says to the country " sorry, we are stuffed " ...this is what you voted for, so either we accept our dwindling International alliances and standing and our permanently hamstrung economy or we have to negotiate some form of re-entry."
 
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El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Given current trends if there is one thing this country needs to sort out urgently, then it’s our fatties especially in the most deprived areas.

We are an outlier compared to our European peers, the gap in overweight and obesity rates between children from the least and most affluent families in the UK is larger than any EU country (26 points compared to the EU average of 8 percentage points).

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/press/press-releases/new-analysis-stark-inequalities-obesity-england

This obsession with institutions that provide food for free to the poor should be reviewed, and certainly as far as our fat b@stards are concerned. Given the stress obesity is putting on the NHS it’s better to be cruel than kind, regardless of what Sir Marcus has to say.


As someone who works with the Trussell Trust it’s disappointing that you seem unhappy with the work that foodbanks do. If you want to be cruel rather than kind to people in food poverty that’s your call.

As for the snide comment about Marcus Rashford…no surprise there given your views and his skin colour.
 


Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
5,443
vegster;10307096[B said:
]I really can't see how Starmer can make Brexit " work " ..its utterly impossible[/B]. The only hope is that the next government tries to make it work, accepts they can't make it work and then says to the country " sorry, we are stuffed " ...this is what you voted for, so either we accept our dwindling International alliances and standing and our permanently hamstrung economy or we have to negotiate some firm of re-entry."

It only 'works' on the political basis of getting former Labour voting Brexiters on board.... and Johnson and Starmer know it.... There are still many who reluctantly acknowledge Brexit is a big disappointment but are not ready to let their Referendum decision go......yet.
 


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