[Politics] Brexit

[Justice]

Unfortunately TM is a terrible negotiator always has been, to get a decent deal out of the EU unsettle them first. May panicking at the last minute and rushing over to Europe makes her look weak she ain’t gonna get shit changed now. They know she’s on her knees simply has to go.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Are we likely to ask, because the Norway option includes Freedom of Movement, which is something which makes the Tories screech in their nightmares?

The FOM of workers as part of it is the elephant in the room. However as Amber Rudd said in her Times interview on Saturday on the subject:

the freedom of movement is really yesterday’s question — we are down to a six-year low for net migration from the EU. It was a record high at the referendum.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-new-referendum-we-re-better-off-in-0npkw9lgs

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Unfortunately TM is a terrible negotiator always has been, to get a decent deal out of the EU unsettle them first. May panicking at the last minute and rushing over to Europe makes her look weak she ain’t gonna get shit changed now. They know she’s on her knees simply has to go.

The EU hasn't changed anything. They are 28 countries who have agreed the rules (us included) and now we want to leave. They are standing by those rules but we want special privileges.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Norway don't want us in their group with Iceland and Lichenstein.

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Suggesting that a single MP speaks for the whole of the government of Norway is like suggesting JRM speaks for the whole of the UK government.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Suggesting that a single MP speaks for the whole of the government of Norway is like suggesting JRM speaks for the whole of the UK government.

I didn't realise JRM was President.

 

[BBassic]

Have only just noticed the tags on this topic:

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Excellent.

 

[sully]

And if Leave wins again?

The option voted for would have to be a version of leave that could actually be delivered, not “we’ll negotiate a better deal”. Therefore, we go with whatever wins. What’s difficult about that?

 

[Triggaaar]

However as Amber Rudd said in her Times interview on Saturday on the subject:

"the freedom of movement is really yesterday’s question — we are down to a six-year low for net migration from the EU. It was a record high at the referendum."

Don't you think Brexit has something to do with that?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I didn't realise JRM was President.

Good whataboutery there TB ! No, JRM isn't president, equally nor is Lunde ( because Norway doesn't have one ), nor is she PM of Norway ( as JRM isn't PM of the UK ). They both head up European movements of one type or the other. Neither has any more influence over government policy than any other MP. Now show me where the government of Norway ( or PM if you like ) has said we can't join their club ? You can't because you're just spreading, I'll be polite, mis-information.

 

[Gwylan]

Are we likely to ask, because the Norway option includes Freedom of Movement, which is something which makes the Tories screech in their nightmares?

It's a biggie for May but all Tories are wetting their pants over FoM. The main mover of the Norway option is Tory MP Nick Boles, for example.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The option voted for would have to be a version of leave that could actually be delivered, not “we’ll negotiate a better deal”. Therefore, we go with whatever wins. What’s difficult about that?

I stupidly assumed that the referendum was Leave or Stay, with details left to the experts. When I vote in an election, I don't say I'm voting Monster Raving Looney but I want this, that and t'other. Compromise is the order of the day, whilst accepting que sera sera.

Now that IS easy to understand.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Have only just noticed the tags on this topic:

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#brexshit, #pastaracist, #westdenebullshitter, 5th column loons, another political thread, bedwetting tsunami, brexit, brexit means brexit, brexitbores, broflakes, i still believe experts, imnotnibble, liberation, mongs galore, more political arguments, more poltical dullards, professor plum, really nasty porn, right wing twats, tory prick, twot professors, usual leftie rubbish, vote timmy, wah wah it's so unfair, we're f***ed

Excellent.

- I'd be interested if the person that added the highlighted one actually has the guts to admit it. I doubt very much they do !

 

[Triggaaar]

Good whataboutery there TB ! No, JRM isn't president, equally nor is Lunde ( because Norway doesn't have one ), nor is she PM of Norway ( as JRM isn't PM of the UK ). They both head up European movements of one type or the other. Neither has any more influence over government policy than any other MP. Now show me where the government of Norway ( or PM if you like ) has said we can't join their club ? You can't because you're just spreading, I'll be polite, mis-information.

I don't think TB intended to spread mis-information, I think she mistakenly thought Lunde was the leader of Norway.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Good whataboutery there TB ! No, JRM isn't president, equally nor is Lunde ( because Norway doesn't have one ), nor is she PM of Norway ( as JRM isn't PM of the UK ). They both head up European movements of one type or the other. Neither has any more influence over government policy than any other MP. Now show me where the government of Norway ( or PM if you like ) has said we can't join their club ? You can't because you're just spreading, I'll be polite, mis-information.

The clip said President of the European Movement, JRM is the chairman of ERG. Are they as equally as important?

 

[nicko31]

Listen to this now is just surreal.....


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[Two Professors]

The FOM of workers as part of it is the elephant in the room. However as Amber Rudd said in her Times interview on Saturday on the subject:



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-new-referendum-we-re-better-off-in-0npkw9lgs

How the hell would they know the figures on migration,anyway?We now have Rumanian shops opening in our area,so EU migration is just coming from different areas,not reducing,or it certainly seems that way.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How the hell would they know the figures on migration,anyway?We now have Rumanian shops opening in our area,so EU migration is just coming from different areas,not reducing,or it certainly seems that way.

Blooming Romanians coming over here, scoring our goals.

 

[Triggaaar]

I stupidly assumed that the referendum was Leave or Stay, with details left to the experts. When I vote in an election, I don't say I'm voting Monster Raving Looney but I want this, that and t'other. Compromise is the order of the day, whilst accepting que sera sera.

Now that IS easy to understand.

I think it's fair to say that if you had a choice of:
Leave - no deal
Leave - TM's deal
Remain

You'd choose either of the leave options, ahead of the remain option. I suspect that you're concerned that if put to a referendum, the public wouldn't agree with you, so you wouldn't get what you want. Therefore, you understandably want to stick with the result that suited you.

 

[sully]

I stupidly assumed that the referendum was Leave or Stay, with details left to the experts. When I vote in an election, I don't say I'm voting Monster Raving Looney but I want this, that and t'other. Compromise is the order of the day, whilst accepting que sera sera.

Now that IS easy to understand.

I’m just going to accept that you’re being obtuse on purpose and leave you to it. Others have tried to explain the problem to you but you just don’t seem to want to know. If you don’t have an opinion on it, why are you commenting at all?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Therefore, you understandably want to stick with the result that suited you.

Or, put another way, the result of the referendum. Yes.