[Other Sport] Borthwick OUT

[Flounce]

Absolute shambles of a performance by England late in the game. No imagination, schoolboy errors and totally outclassed by SA. Even when we were winning it was obvious the wheels were going to come off AGAIN

Fully expecting to enjoy the France vs New Zealand game coming up much more.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Absolute shambles of a performance by England. No imagination, schoolboy errors and totally outclassed by SA. Even when we were winning it was obvious the wheels were going to come off AGAIN

Fully expecting to enjoy the France vs New Zealand game coming up much more.

Great positions and then f*** it up each time.

 

[Mancgull]

I’m amazed he isn’t under more pressure. Results simply not good enough and I don’t mean just tonight as it’s no shame to losing to the World Champions but we are continuously losing.
Time for a new coach.

 

[Iggle Piggle]

TMO out.

Sucked the life out of that game. Makes PGMOL look competent.

 

[Flounce]

TMO out.

Sucked the life out of that game. Makes PGMOL look competent.

The laws are tweeked every year so it’s hard to know why some of the decisions are made without being totally up to speed with the changes. So I hesitate to criticise the TMO or the ref today, I was left wondering about some of the decisions as I am not sure exactly what changes have come in..

 

[Weststander]

SA beat northern hemisphere sides for fun.

Glad I didn’t get my hopes up and watch the England autumn internationals. Spoke to others recently who did the same, based on we’ve fallen so far (between WC’s).

1987 to 2007 …. spoilt rotten.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I hope the good people of Twickenham can cope with the loud tutting of 80,000 men in red trousers. I can only imagine the passive aggressiveness if it wakes up Rufus and Chlamydia.

 

[Flounce]

I hope the good people of Twickenham can cope with the loud tutting of 80,000 men in red trousers. I can only imagine the passive aggressiveness if it wakes up Rufus and Chlamydia.

I think pink is now the trouser of choice

 

[Iggle Piggle]

The laws change every year so it’s hard to know why some of the decisions are made without being totally up to speed with the changes. So I hesitate to criticise the TMO or the ref today.

Yeah the rules (I know it's laws but it's a great way to wind up the rugby lot) change so much no one really knows what's going on. I can call off side and forward pass with confidence and after that Its a guess up.

That Itoje one reminded me of VAR trying to find a reason to disallow a goal. Nothing clear and obvious. By contrast the forward pass by SA early in the 2nd half was blindingly obvious which the commentators decided was close.

 

[Munkfish]

Good.

 

[Flounce]

Yeah the rules (I know it's laws but it's a great way to wind up the rugby lot) change so much no one really knows what's going on. I can call off side and forward pass with confidence and after that Its a guess up.

That Itoje one reminded me of VAR trying to find a reason to disallow a goal. Nothing clear and obvious. By contrast the forward pass by SA early in the 2nd half was blindingly obvious which the commentators decided was close.

Arm round the neck, even if just loosely wrapped is a penalty

 

[Eeyore]

I hope the good people of Twickenham can cope with the loud tutting of 80,000 men in red trousers. I can only imagine the passive aggressiveness if it wakes up Rufus and Chlamydia.

Being a Harlequins fan, and having regularly visited both Twickenham grounds, it does get pretty rowdy. Just none of the nasty stuff. Mary Whitehouse would have approved- although maybe not the drinking.

I saw England v Ireland some time back. It's a great atmosphere. And even more fun that I worked out walking the mile to Whitton station means you get straight on a train that next stops at Twickenham with all the queues going out the station. Rugby folk aren't quite so intelligent when it comes to transport arrangements.

 

[Gwylan]

It's a great atmosphere. And even more fun that I worked out walking the mile to Whitton station means you get straight on a train that next stops at Twickenham with all the queues going out the station. Rugby folk aren't quite so intelligent when it comes to transport arrangements.

I tried that last time I went to Twickenham and got hopelessly lost. I ended up at Twickenham station anyway, just about 40 minutes later than everyone else

My usual escape is walking to Richmond and, before it was closed, stopping for a drink in The Triple Crown, and then hopping on a tube. It's a pig of a stadium to get away from; anyone who's done will never moan about the Amex

 

[ManOfSussex]

Cheer up, France beat The All Blacks.

 

[Eeyore]

I tried that last time I went to Twickenham and got hopelessly lost. I ended up at Twickenham station anyway, just about 40 minutes later than everyone else

My usual escape is walking to Richmond and, before it was closed, stopping for a drink in The Triple Crown, and then hopping on a tube. It's a pig of a stadium to get away from; anyone who's done will never moan about the Amex

It's about a mile or so down the Whitton Road and turn left once you get the borough. I think the first time I did it was after the Harlequins Christmas match. I couldn't believe there were only about 50 on the station. Had to wait a while for a train that stopped there but well worth it. Got a seat easily and when it arrived at Twickers they were queuing out the station. I was totally baffled as to how folk hadn't gone looking for other options.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Borthwick is to English rugby what Steve McLaren was to English football.

An awful coach.

 

[BiffyBoy]

Every time I watch rugby, I understand why football is the most-watched game in the world.

I'm not sure if it's England-specific, with Tarquin and Hugo singing the dull "swing low, sweet chariot," but I think it's a game that will continue to fade here vs Australia, NZ, South Africa, etc.

 

[BiffyBoy]

Also, why do the forwards always look like nightclub bouncers? Fat, bald, and look like they're 50 despite being 23! You don't see that in football.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Also, why do the forwards always look like nightclub bouncers? Fat, bald, and look like they're 50 despite being 23! You don't see that in football.

Have you never seen Wayne Rooney ?

 

[el punal]

SA beat northern hemisphere sides for fun.

Glad I didn’t get my hopes up and watch the England autumn internationals. Spoke to others recently who did the same, based on we’ve fallen so far (between WC’s).

1987 to 2007 …. spoilt rotten.

With the 2000 to 2003 being the pinnacle.