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BNP f**k up - again



e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
The plane in the picture is a MkVb, flown by Squadron Leader Jan Zumbach of 303 (Polish) Sqaudron. The MkVb didn't enter service until 1941 so it's not even a Battle of Britain photo. I'm surprised no-one has picked up on this:lolol:

I feel so stupid now! :dunce:
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,943
Crap Town
The plane in the picture is a MkVb, flown by Squadron Leader Jan Zumbach of 303 (Polish) Sqaudron. The MkVb didn't enter service until 1941 so it's not even a Battle of Britain photo. I'm surprised no-one has picked up on this:lolol:
:thumbsup: not unless the Daily Mail has infiltrated NSC and it will appear as their exclusive :lol:
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Nice one.

Now click on Commentary

And? Its just basically summarising the primary sources provided and from a modern day viewpoint. Says he visited the minister (ambassadors) home to express condolences.

It answers Buzzer's question about neutral countries quite handily though.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
And? Its just basically summarising the primary sources provided and from a modern day viewpoint. Says he visited the minister (ambassadors) home to express condolences.

It answers Buzzer's question about neutral countries quite handily though.

But you said he didn't pay a visit?

On 2 May 1945, Eamon de Valera, Taoiseach and Minister for External Affairs, and Joseph Walshe, Secretary of the Department of External Affairs, called to the home of Eduard Hempel, German Minister to Ireland since 1937, to express their condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler, who committed suicide in Berlin on 30 April. This visit caused an international furore and extremely hostile coverage, particularly in the American and British press. De Valera's protestations that the visit was in keeping with the protocol requirements of a neutral state were largely derided, and he found himself in the uncomfortable company of the Spanish and Portuguese, who also expressed condolences, and at a distance from the canny Swiss, who did not, on the grounds that they had received no formal notification of Hitler's death.

This is where he signed the book?
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I said he never visited the EMBASSY. He visited the ambassadors house - as all those sources the NAI has show ; and he never signed a book of condolences - none of the sources the NAI suggest he did.
 




algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Anyway Cian i'm off to bed now.See you at Southend pal.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,943
Crap Town
But you said he didn't pay a visit?

On 2 May 1945, Eamon de Valera, Taoiseach and Minister for External Affairs, and Joseph Walshe, Secretary of the Department of External Affairs, called to the home of Eduard Hempel, German Minister to Ireland since 1937, to express their condolences on the death of Adolf Hitler, who committed suicide in Berlin on 30 April. This visit caused an international furore and extremely hostile coverage, particularly in the American and British press. De Valera's protestations that the visit was in keeping with the protocol requirements of a neutral state were largely derided, and he found himself in the uncomfortable company of the Spanish and Portuguese, who also expressed condolences, and at a distance from the canny Swiss, who did not, on the grounds that they had received no formal notification of Hitler's death.

This is where he signed the book?

Would it have been a common practice in the 1930/40s for the Minister or Ambassador to have a visitors book at his residence ?
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Would it have been a common practice in the 1930/40s for the Minister or Ambassador to have a visitors book at his residence ?

I've never had the pleasure (or not...) or being in an ambassadors gaff except on an open day in the Italian one in the 2000s (Italian car owners meeting) so I don't know...
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,321
As always, The Left got ALL the best arguments. f*** the BNP, they ALWAYS get shot down in flames by their own low-IQ right wing sloppy seconds thinking.

Pathetic don't even START to cover it.
 


Milton Keynes Seagull

Active member
Sep 28, 2003
775
Milton Keynes
As always, The Left got ALL the best arguments. f*** the BNP, they ALWAYS get shot down in flames by their own low-IQ right wing sloppy seconds thinking.

Pathetic don't even START to cover it.

The Left got all the best arguments? Wonderful English with the obligatory use of the F word. Typical lefty though. The left didn't have much to say in 1989/90 when every country in Eastern Europe was rightly kicking the commies into touch did they?:rolleyes:
 


Milton Keynes Seagull

Active member
Sep 28, 2003
775
Milton Keynes
As always, The Left got ALL the best arguments. f*** the BNP, they ALWAYS get shot down in flames by their own low-IQ right wing sloppy seconds thinking.

Pathetic don't even START to cover it.

Which "left" would this be then? I thought New Labour was a centrist party. The SWP, the Socialist party, what's left of the Communist Party or just another of those middle class students in a Che T shirt rebelling against mummy and daddy at Uni, going on demos and listening to the latest trendy indie band.:lolol:
 






Dandyman

In London village.
The Left got all the best arguments? Wonderful English with the obligatory use of the F word. Typical lefty though. The left didn't have much to say in 1989/90 when every country in Eastern Europe was rightly kicking the commies into touch did they?:rolleyes:

When there is more time, we can explain the difference between state capitalism/Stalinism and real socialism to you. If you were a bit older, you'd also remember Portugal, Spain and Greece rightly kicking fascism into touch in the 1970's.
 


Milton Keynes Seagull

Active member
Sep 28, 2003
775
Milton Keynes
When there is more time, we can explain the difference between state capitalism/Stalinism and real socialism to you. If you were a bit older, you'd also remember Portugal, Spain and Greece rightly kicking fascism into touch in the 1970's.

But I am that old, I remember those events very well! I also remember the Soviets sending tanks into Prague in 1968 to crush Alexander Dubcek and his attempt to humanise "socialism".

And I also remember all the silly middle class revolutionaries at my university in the mid seventies selling their crap newspapers outside the Union arguing among themselves like a reenactment from the Life of Brian.:laugh: One poor little Trotskyite was selling, actually being ignored by students having more important things to do like get to the bar, the Workers Press (Workers Revolutionary Party). Next to him another poseur was trying to shift the Socialist Worker, and some ridiculous maoist was selling something else. They were slagging each other off about the meaning of "real socialism" to everyone's brief amusement.

Pity I didn't have an icepick handy, I could have reenacted Trotsky's welcome exit from his mortal coil.:laugh:
 




k2bluesky

New member
Sep 22, 2008
803
Brighton
Don't start me on the EU, the biggest bunch of thieving, money grubbing bastards ever created. Jobs for all the arse licking politicians (Mandelson, Kinnock) when they retire/leave UK Gov. on £250,000+ per year plus pension, free travel, £250,000 expenses, family as office staff (the whole bloody Kinnock family) etc etc. Doing f*** all except traveling round the world wasting money at the expense of EU taxpayers - Even the EU accountants have refused to sign off the books there is so much money left unaccounted for - EU=f***ing DISGRACE IN WASTING/STEALING MONEY.
 


Dandyman

In London village.
But I am that old, I remember those events very well! I also remember the Soviets sending tanks into Prague in 1968 to crush Alexander Dubcek and his attempt to humanise "socialism".

And I also remember all the silly middle class revolutionaries at my university in the mid seventies selling their crap newspapers outside the Union arguing among themselves like a reenactment from the Life of Brian.:laugh: One poor little Trotskyite was selling, actually being ignored by students having more important things to do like get to the bar, the Workers Press (Workers Revolutionary Party). Next to him another poseur was trying to shift the Socialist Worker, and some ridiculous maoist was selling something else. They were slagging each other off about the meaning of "real socialism" to everyone's brief amusement.

Pity I didn't have an icepick handy, I could have reenacted Trotsky's welcome exit from his mortal coil.:laugh:

Judean Peoples Front? F*cking SPLITTERS.
 


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