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In his dual position of Minister for External Affairs he sent a telegram of condolence as was state policy of the time. Had it been Churchill, King George, Roosevelt or Mussolini a telegram would have been sent.

State Policy is not a decent excuse. When was this policy abolished? Surely they would have the power to quash the policy there and then?
 






algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
As I've already said, he didn't sign a book of condolence so that is not a fact. Your knowledge of facts is so incredibly wrong you may as well stop claiming any. Additionally, where the hell do you think he would have hypothetically signed a book of condolence in the German embassy - Rome? Paris?

In his dual position of Minister for External Affairs he sent a telegram of condolence as was state policy of the time. Had it been Churchill, King George, Roosevelt or Mussolini a telegram would have been sent.
Thats your opinion.I know he signed the book himself.
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
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Dublin, Ireland
State Policy is not a decent excuse. When was this policy abolished? Surely they would have the power to quash the policy there and then?

Don't know when it was abolished, its assumed De Valera's viewpoint was that not sending it would further have damaged our claim of neutrality - his opinion, not that of his civil servants.

To claim however that sending a telegram in line with state policy = tacit or real support for Nazi Germany is ludacrious. Just the kind of claim algie loves to make...
 








Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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Nestling in green nowhere
John Amery was the only one executed. Google British Free Corp

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Here they are. Apparently never got more than about 46 or so volunteers, mostly former BUF supporters and dissafected losers.

Apparently disbanded in 45 and members placed in regular SS units where they fought the commies.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Don't know when it was abolished, its assumed De Valera's viewpoint was that not sending it would further have damaged our claim of neutrality - his opinion, not that of his civil servants.

To claim however that sending a telegram in line with state policy = tacit or real support for Nazi Germany is ludacrious. Just the kind of claim algie loves to make...

It's well known the Irish support for the Germans.Not forgetting Irish spies either.
 






Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
It's well known the Irish support for the Germans.Not forgetting Irish spies either.

Well known to you perhaps; but not to the majority of the world who aren't paranoid conspiracy theorists. The country was neutral and if anything leant towards the UK, exporting huge volumes of food, allowing ingress in to our air space and providing assistance to Northern Ireland when it was bombed.

Additionally, our state papers are releasted unredacted after 30 years, which shows that there was no support for Germany and it also shows that, despite your desperate claims in this thread, de Valera never signed a condolence book for Hitler - his daily scheduled as Taoiseach was legally recorded and verified.

Care to explain your theory of "Irish spies"?
 


Race

The Tank Rules!
Aug 28, 2004
7,822
Hampshire
yeah, especially donald sutherland in the eagle has landed. spying irish bastard!!
 






El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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It's well known the Irish support for the Germans.Not forgetting Irish spies either.

f***ing hell Spencer, I've just unbanned myself as that comment is way out of line.

The vast majority of the Irish people supported the Allies in the war. There were some Nazi sympathisers, just as there were some BRITISH Nazi sympathisers too, what they had in common was that they were all arseholes.

There were Russian spies educated at Cambridge, it doesn't mean that everyone from that six fingered City is a Commie though does it?

It is wrong to apply sweeping generalisations to complete nations.

p.s I'm now banning myself again x:kiss:
 






Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
Well known to you perhaps; but not to the majority of the world who aren't paranoid conspiracy theorists. The country was neutral and if anything leant towards the UK, exporting huge volumes of food, allowing ingress in to our air space and providing assistance to Northern Ireland when it was bombed.

Additionally, our state papers are releasted unredacted after 30 years, which shows that there was no support for Germany and it also shows that, despite your desperate claims in this thread, de Valera never signed a condolence book for Hitler - his daily scheduled as Taoiseach was legally recorded and verified.

Care to explain your theory of "Irish spies"?

I remember, growing up in Liverpool, that a lot of people were convinced that The lights of Dublin during the blackout helped the Luftwaffe find their way to The Mersey...only later did I think, hang on, thats a bit of a detour there! and figure it out to be total skollobs.

fact is thousands of irishmen volunteered to fight with us against the Nazis, just because some in the republican groups would support ANYONE against the British doesnt mean Ireland was guilty of wholesale collaboration.
 














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