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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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midnight_rendezvous said:
:shrug: You know there is an argument for punk being ‘created’ in America right so what has their nationality got to do with it? Better than the Pistols IMO.
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Yes I know. The Count Five. The Stooges. ? and the Mysterions. The Ramones. Jonathan Richman....

Then the UK thing. Fashion by Vivian Westwood. Music by the Damned, Clash and Pistols.

Except it wasn't really. Not in Brighton. Not even in London where I lived, 76-79. MacLaren gobbing off, great rock and roll swindle style, was all bollocks by 77. The actual bands that were playing and accessible were others. The Members...Sham 69...Wrist Action....X Ray Spex. Mark Perry had his finger on the pulse better than the likes of Tony Parson and Charles Shaar Murray. A lot of the bands were shit. Some were good. Yes we had a lot of time for the big three, but actually music moved on pretty quickly. By 77 we had the likes of Wire and Scrittti politti and Cabaret Voltaire....by the time I saw the Clash it was at the Top Rank....Gen X's much awaited first album was a bit old hat. The Bashees, who I saw in Brighton, disappared but released a great album....BUT it was not 'punk'...and then we had The Humam League, Comsats, Chamleons....it has all moved completely on.....

The 'second' wave of US 'punk' was ramalama dole Q soundalikley stuff. Black Flag, and other unlistenable shite. 1981 their first relase...can you imagine a London version of the mop tops in suits singing hard day's night type ditties - in 1968? It was a massive 'no thanks' from me. By 1981 I had a very long overcoat, a massive quiff, brothel creepers and hardly any make up at all. Punk wasn't simply dead, it had decomposed and been recycled.
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,255
Faversham


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,255
Faversham


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,255
Faversham


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,255
Faversham
maffew said:
Yeah tbh I'm not certain what makes something in the punk genre, I saw Teenage Kicks earlier in the thread which I wouldnt say is punk. Great songs though, I'm not very good at pigeon holing music types. I'm sure this song would sound more punk if it was a bloke singing! I guess its a bit pop or new wave even. I dont know! Anyway another good NSC music thread punk: punk: punk: punk:
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Interesting point. It was exquisitely important to pidgeon hole everything 1972-1977. You had to pick a tribe, or be good at disguise and keep your head down. The early UK 'punks' were massive snobs, lots of trustafarians as well as increadibly creative young people with style, and only fear of the unknown stopped us being attacked by all and sundry at any given moment, so being massive elitist snobs was all part of the schtik. As soon as people who looked (how can I put this?) more at home on a football terrace started to turn up at gigs it was time to move on.

I am not sure how long the tribalism lasted. I last went to a 'punk' gig in around 1978....lots of newer sounds and no clear tribes....being a punk purist would have seemed to me to be akin to being a keg bitter purist, or a tribute band purist......although dressing interestingly still seemed important....no 'flares'....

For the record, I think new music today is better than the old stuff, and people who stopped listning to new music once they bought their first house, or had their first kid, almost in relief, have none of my sympathy.

ps it IS a bloke singing :laugh:punk::lolol:
 








studio150

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
For the record, I think new music today is better than the old stuff, and people who stopped listning to new music once they bought their first house, or had their first kid, almost in relief, have none of my sympathy.
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Interesting comment.

I'm sure that teenagers would agree as that has always been the way, that the younger generation always believe that their music is better than their parents.

The advancement of digital recording and autotune no doubt has played a part in improving music, however I firmly believe there has always been good and bad music by generations depending on personal taste.

Are Little Mix better than the Bay City Rollers, possibly, are they better than Pink Floyd, no. However no doubt someone who prefers catchy 3 minute 'pop' songs would disagree.

I don't listen to nearly as much new music as I used to, but the surprising thing is that although I dislike the stuff my son likes from todays groups he has been asking for recommendations from my collection, as he discovers music from yesteryear.

Just off now to listen to some new music - Construction Time & Demolition :rock:punk::lol:
 




aftershavedave

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Jul 9, 2003
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as 10cc say, not in hove
Harry Wilson's tackle said:
I wouldn't have thought Gene October was up your alley. :rolleyes:

I saw them at the Marquee in 77, supported by the punk band who later turned into . . . .????!!!!!

Interesting dressing room.... :laugh:
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my first ever gig was chelsea, the cortinas and the vibrators at the roundhouse march 78. i was 14. loved it!
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Yes I know. The Count Five. The Stooges. ? and the Mysterions. The Ramones. Jonathan Richman....

Then the UK thing. Fashion by Vivian Westwood. Music by the Damned, Clash and Pistols.

Except it wasn't really. Not in Brighton. Not even in London where I lived, 76-79. MacLaren gobbing off, great rock and roll swindle style, was all bollocks by 77. The actual bands that were playing and accessible were others. The Members...Sham 69...Wrist Action....X Ray Spex. Mark Perry had his finger on the pulse better than the likes of Tony Parson and Charles Shaar Murray. A lot of the bands were shit. Some were good. Yes we had a lot of time for the big three, but actually music moved on pretty quickly. By 77 we had the likes of Wire and Scrittti politti and Cabaret Voltaire....by the time I saw the Clash it was at the Top Rank....Gen X's much awaited first album was a bit old hat. The Bashees, who I saw in Brighton, disappared but released a great album....BUT it was not 'punk'...and then we had The Humam League, Comsats, Chamleons....it has all moved completely on.....

The 'second' wave of US 'punk' was ramalama dole Q soundalikley stuff. Black Flag, and other unlistenable shite. 1981 their first relase...can you imagine a London version of the mop tops in suits singing hard day's night type ditties - in 1968? It was a massive 'no thanks' from me. By 1981 I had a very long overcoat, a massive quiff, brothel creepers and hardly any make up at all. Punk wasn't simply dead, it had decomposed and been recycled.
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Ta. Keep posting your knowledgeable synopses.

I was a bit too young at 11 / 12, in that true UK punk era, but learnt about it soon after. I love some of it, but found/find some of it boring noise.

Being a bit younger, I adore much of the next music phases. So called post punk, new wave, ‘mod’, electronic, etc. A stack of stuff from The Clash, Stranglers, Joy Division, New Order, The Jam, Simple Minds, The Cure, Visage, Bunnymen, Kraftwerk, OMD, Human League. I never set out to follow a genre or trend. It was simply based on loving a track. For me great memories of very exciting and innovative times in pop, and I still love it all now.

Fond memories too of Parsons, Morley and Burchill writing. I know they could be bitchy and snobby, but they loved much of the music, and were part of a refreshing scene saying goodbye to Heavy Metal and early/mid 70’s dross.
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Much as I loved that era dearly, the more you analyse punk, the less there was. The Stranglers were rockers and entry-level punks who could play their instruments to students who would far rather be listening to The Doors and were hooked in by the very accomplished keyboards. The Jam were clean and Tory. The Sex Pistols were heavy metal with attitude. Joe Strummer was a diplomat's son with attitude.The Adverts were art school. Plus a hundred professional chancer bands and the same number of young and local kiddie bands who claimed the stage and never looked back.

Loved every single last bit of it while in real-time sneering at the vast majority of it. How does that work? Dunno, but just know it did. It was the very best of times to be young and alive and receptive to meaningful music. IMHO, like. Obviously.

Top three punk singles for me were, in no particular order:

The Mekons - Where Were You?
The Clash - Complete Control
The Adverts- One Chord Wonders
 
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Pogue Mahone

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One of the ultimate punk bands must be The Saints, who released their first single 'I'm Stranded' before the Pistols or The Clash, in 1976.

They were from Brisbane, Australia. They were not hanging on anyone's coat tails, they were utterly unique for their time and their place. And they were magnificent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWeX65b5dOk
 


















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