Ben Roberts

[honey boy zimba]

I know it was a good performance from the whole team to day,best since Rushden away.BUT Roberts had to many dodgy moments again today.I still would be happier with FDM in the side he just has a more reasuring presence..

 

[El Presidente]

He made too many unforced errors for my liking. Good shot stopper and excellent distribution, but Cullip got him out of jail more than once today

 

[Beach Hut]

He tried his hardest to hand the game on a plate to Plymouth but they just weren't interested.

I backed him at the start of the season but Kuipers for me now.

 

[Lush]

Agree. Kuipers all the way. Why doesn't Roberts call for the ball more?

 

[Bwian]

Roberts is a liability-he doesn't command his area in the way MK does. I'll put up with FDM's iffy distribution because everything else he does compensates.

Is there a dressing room problem with Kuipers because that can be the only reason I can think of for playing Roberts instead of MK?

 

[Curious Orange]

Roberts is an excellent shot-stopper, but he doen't inspire confidence in the defence in the way that the FDM does. Bring Michel back.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

you really do talk crap roberts slipped once ok but saved us twice when it was 0-0 kicking was class handling class came and got more things than kuipers would ever think of getting

if kuipers had played and did the same stuff as roberts did he would have been class

 

[London Irish]

Ben made a great save coming off his line just before we scored our first goal. It was one of the most crucial events of the game. The Sky commentators went out of their way to praise his quickness around the area. I don't feel this criticism that he doesn't command his area is fair.

There was one thread after last week's game where it was suggested without a shred of evidence that Ben was substituted for tactical reasons at half-time rather than because of his back injury flaring up. By the third page of that thread, this "explanation" had seemingly mutated into established NSC "fact". McGhee's selection today answered that one.

I think the only reason why Ben is getting the starts is that he is the guy in possession and his performances over the past months have been so good he doesn't deserve to lose his place.

Cannot people accept that we have two fine keepers and are spoilt for choice, period?

This constant exaggeration of every minor slip that Ben makes is poor reward for the gutsy job he is doing for us.

 

[Dropkick Turnip]

Cannot people accept that we have two fine keepers and are spoilt for choice, period?

Maybe, London Irish, but I'd still be happier with FDM between the sticks. The way he commands the defence is inspiring and Roberts tries too much showboating for my liking.

 

[Fran Hagarty]

Ben made a great save coming off his line just before we scored our first goal. It was one of the most crucial events of the game. The Sky commentators went out of their way to praise his quickness around the area. I don't feel this criticism that he doesn't command his area is fair.

There was one thread after last week's game where it was suggested without a shred of evidence that Ben was substituted for tactical reasons at half-time rather than because of his back injury flaring up. By the third page of that thread, this "explanation" had seemingly mutated into established NSC "fact". McGhee's selection today answered that one.

I think the only reason why Ben is getting the starts is that he is the guy in possession and his performances over the past months have been so good he doesn't deserve to lose his place.

Cannot people accept that we have two fine keepers and are spoilt for choice, period?

This constant exaggeration of every minor slip that Ben makes is poor reward for the gutsy job he is doing for us.

Absolutely right, London Irish - and your last paragraph sums it up. Some people have tunnel vision - towards Kuipers - they have built him up as a hero and won't accept that Roberts does anything well. I'm really glad Mcghee has stuck witth him. In any case, he's much more exciting to watch than Kuipers!

 

[BrightonBird]

He slipped once (due to the wet pitch). We have two good keepers and it is time some fans realised that. Roberts is playing as he is the better player at the moment (in the managers eyes). I think Roberts makes more "silly mistakes" then Kuipers but he is a better keeper overall and pulls off some cracking saves.

I'm just glad we have 2 great keepers.

 

[The Large One]

Roberts is an adequate keeper. Kuipers is class.

The only reason people are supporting Roberts is because his faux pas didn't lead to anything more serious. That's not the sort of thing required if we ever want to progress.

I absolutely despair the fact that the club is not playing its best keeper every week.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Roberts is an adequate keeper. Kuipers is class.

The only reason people are supporting Roberts is because his faux pas didn't lead to anything more serious. That's not the sort of thing required if we ever want to progress.

I absolutely despair the fact that the club is not playing its best keeper every week.

we are clearly playing our best keeper, he has played in the prem league league cup and fa cup final for a start.
he was outstanding last night also that save from the header at the fair post was class, but as already said people have it in for him as he is not kuipers

thought it was also a bit odd after his save at 0-0 every one started chanting kuipers name

 

[Bwian]

Absolutely right, London Irish - and your last paragraph sums it up. Some people have tunnel vision - towards Kuipers - they have built him up as a hero and won't accept that Roberts does anything well. I'm really glad Mcghee has stuck witth him. In any case, he's much more exciting to watch than Kuipers!

Sorry Fran, some of you have tunnel vision regarding Roberts. He is more of a liability than Kuipers despite him having played for a Premiership club (nowhere near first choice btw).

He got away with a few bonehead moves again yesterday and that seems to be the one constant in his game. That and his bad back. Does he realise that he's allowed to jump to collect crosses and that when there's a shitload of defenders in front of him he doesn't need to venture out to the edge of the penalty area?

As I said earlier, the only reason I can see him getting the starts over MK has to be a personality issue because he's nowhere near the presence that Kuipers is.

Guess we're all going to have to agree to disagree on this one because there's clearly a difference of opinions over who is the better of the two.

 

[Bwian]

thought it was also a bit odd after his save at 0-0 every one started chanting kuipers name

Wasn't it because he'd screwed up that led to him needing to make a save? He causes the defence all kinds of problems some times and then pulls of a good save that needn't have been required in the first place.

Forget being more exciting to watch than MK-I'd rather have a keeper who doesn't create panic.

 

[Captain Pugwash]

maybe get rid of roberts so that frees up his wages. then we can get trev on a free and thats his wage if he wants to.

Kuipers for Holland

 

[Donny Osmond]

Well played Ben.
Him and Michel are both class so I am not fussed who's in goal

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Wasn't it because he'd screwed up that led to him needing to make a save? He causes the defence all kinds of problems some times and then pulls of a good save that needn't have been required in the first place.

Forget being more exciting to watch than MK-I'd rather have a keeper who doesn't create panic.

kuipers is so poor at claiming crosses his kicking is dyer and was at fault for the goal at peterboro

and how can you say he causes defence problems when unlike kuipers he claims every thing in his box

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Roberts made (at least) two blinding saves, one mistake and one unlucky slip, you've got to credit as well as criticise.
Also, this garbage about him not dominating his area is just that - he controls the play much better than Kuipers and set up a number of counter-attacks with his quick distribution.
Kuipers is one of the best shot-stoppers outside the Pemiership, but his general play (distribution, movement, positioning, awareness, speed) is inferior to Roberts IMHO, who is a better footballer with equally stunning reactions (see Oldham for just one example)
As others have said, we have two top-rate keepers and should be grateful for them. Whether we can afford to keep them both on is another matter.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Roberts made (at least) two blinding saves, one mistake and one unlucky slip, you've got to credit as well as criticise.
Also, this garbage about him not dominating his area is just that - he controls the play much better than Kuipers and set up a number of counter-attacks with his quick distribution.
Kuipers is one of the best shot-stoppers outside the Pemiership, but his general play (distribution, movement, positioning, awareness, speed) is inferior to Roberts IMHO, who is a better footballer with equally stunning reactions (see Oldham for just one example)
As others have said, we have two top-rate keepers and should be grateful for them. Whether we can afford to keep them both on is another matter.