Bbc1...shipmates.

[Charlies Shinpad]

Just watched the second in the series and I must say watching them Lads and Lasses doing there bit after the Tsunami last year makes me proud to be British.

Making Britain Great again!!

Plus I am an Ex Matelot as well.

 

[Yorkie]

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

The padre is brilliant.

Great stuff by the guys and girls working in Sri Lanka.

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

The padre is brilliant.

Yeah,the old Sky Pilot is game for a laugh alright,but everyone I knew in my time in the Mob was like that

 

[Yorkie]

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

The padre is brilliant.

Yeah,the old Sky Pilot is game for a laugh alright,but everyone I knew in my time in the Mob was like that

Ah the good old days

Swing those lamps

 

[Lord Bracknell]

What struck me is the contrast with the recent series about the Army.

Army life seems to be incredibly ... er ... regimented. Everyone knowing their place in a strict hierarchy. And not much trust and co-operation in evidence across the boundaries of rank.

The Navy, in contrast, seemed much more laid back and informal.

Or was it simply two different styles of film-maker?

 

[Gully]

No LB, from my experiences of the Navy I can tell you that they are a law completely unto themselves, they even have their own language.

For example:

Run ashore = night out on the lash
Heads = gents
Nutty = sweets/choccy bars
Gash = rubbish

 

[Yorkie]

No LB, from my experiences of the Navy I can tell you that they are a law completely unto themselves, they even have their own language.

For example:

Run ashore = night out on the lash
Heads = gents
Nutty = sweets/choccy bars
Gash = rubbish

I have Rick Jolly's excellent book Jackspeak.

The Navy is more laid back and yet the rules are there.
Cooperation is the key. Most of the Navy's work is done in confined spaces and everyone has to try and get on with others or else it makes for miserable living for all.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

What struck me is the contrast with the recent series about the Army.

Army life seems to be incredibly ... er ... regimented. Everyone knowing their place in a strict hierarchy. And not much trust and co-operation in evidence across the boundaries of rank.

The Navy, in contrast, seemed much more laid back and informal.

Or was it simply two different styles of film-maker?

Very different ethos with all 3 services. The Army work in much tighter groups, there is less opportunity for individualism, and more expectation of being told what to do, when to do it and how. The RN move between units every couple of years, effectively regenerating teams at the same time. There is an expectation that you will come to the team with the ability to function at a certain level before the team "clicks" and you become a trainer, rather than the "trained." The RN generally "promote and move", the Army promote within the Regt. The RAF come to work, drink tea, go home.

An example - Foot and Mouth. The RN teams consisted of Officers, SNCOs, NCOs and Private equivalents. Any one of the team could be expected to carry out any task, gender and rank independent, from traffic control, slaughtering, body disposal, form filling, vet assistance, etc. The Army teams were detailed with Pvts doing traffic control and body moving, under the supervision of an LCpl/Cpl. The Cpl was responsible for supervising vehicle wash points and controlling access to the farm. The Sgt was responsible for the paperwork at the site, and was in overall control of the unit. There was no officer at a site, they were at the HQ in Cardiff. The RAF worked from home in North Wales!

The RN got requests to visit farms, the Army was requested not to visit farms, and were met by shotgun toting farmers on more than one occasion. The RN delivered easter eggs (paid for themselves) to farms, and got invited back for lunch! The RAF worked from home.

In the hotels (yes, we stayed in hotels), the Army had "Room Cpls", "Corridor Sgts", and "Floor Officers". They had room service bills, telephone bills and charges for damages. The RN let all their guys just get on with it. We had one person who went home to see his Mum and overslept the next morning. The RAF, er, worked from home......

Basically, the RN expects a certain level of independency - they are encouraged to move to private accommodation, the Army are not. Not sure what the RAF do....!

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

Very different ethos with all 3 services. The Army work in much tighter groups, there is less opportunity for individualism, and more expectation of being told what to do, when to do it and how. The RN move between units every couple of years, effectively regenerating teams at the same time. There is an expectation that you will come to the team with the ability to function at a certain level before the team "clicks" and you become a trainer, rather than the "trained." The RN generally "promote and move", the Army promote within the Regt. The RAF come to work, drink tea, go home.

An example - Foot and Mouth. The RN teams consisted of Officers, SNCOs, NCOs and Private equivalents. Any one of the team could be expected to carry out any task, gender and rank independent, from traffic control, slaughtering, body disposal, form filling, vet assistance, etc. The Army teams were detailed with Pvts doing traffic control and body moving, under the supervision of an LCpl/Cpl. The Cpl was responsible for supervising vehicle wash points and controlling access to the farm. The Sgt was responsible for the paperwork at the site, and was in overall control of the unit. There was no officer at a site, they were at the HQ in Cardiff. The RAF worked from home in North Wales!

The RN got requests to visit farms, the Army was requested not to visit farms, and were met by shotgun toting farmers on more than one occasion. The RN delivered easter eggs (paid for themselves) to farms, and got invited back for lunch! The RAF worked from home.

In the hotels (yes, we stayed in hotels), the Army had "Room Cpls", "Corridor Sgts", and "Floor Officers". They had room service bills, telephone bills and charges for damages. The RN let all their guys just get on with it. We had one person who went home to see his Mum and overslept the next morning. The RAF, er, worked from home......

Basically, the RN expects a certain level of independency - they are encouraged to move to private accommodation, the Army are not. Not sure what the RAF do....!

Spot on there.

I was in Polaris Submarines for 3 years and once we left the Jetty for our 3 month Patrol any class barriers were left behind and as an add on everyone had to do an Exam called your Part 3 ,in which you had to know every breaker and connection,fire extinguisher,electrical sysyems,nuclear systems,hydraulic systems, etc etc in that Submarine in case someone could not do his job and you were tested at the end of your Patrol with a walk thru the boat which took over 3 hours in which they asked you about everything possible!!

And all you got was a Set of Dolphins and a Tot of Rum at the end of it!!

Mind you I still have my uniform with my Dolphins on them now,and I have been out for 25 years.

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

I have Rick Jolly's excellent book Jackspeak.

The Navy is more laid back and yet the rules are there.
Cooperation is the key. Most of the Navy's work is done in confined spaces and everyone has to try and get on with others or else it makes for miserable living for all.

Commander surgeon Rick Jolly,top bloke,served with him on the Bristol,happy days.

 

[Dave the OAP]

makes me proud to be British.

Making Britain Great again!!

Plus I am an Ex Matelot as well.

careful, you will have the PC brigade after you.....after all we did rape and pillage their country 100's of years ago you know

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Was nice just to hear the origin of the phrase 'Jack of all trades' - excellent stuff

 

[Dave the OAP]

Very different ethos with all 3 services. The Army work in much tighter groups, there is less opportunity for individualism, and more expectation of being told what to do, when to do it and how. The RN move between units every couple of years, effectively regenerating teams at the same time. There is an expectation that you will come to the team with the ability to function at a certain level before the team "clicks" and you become a trainer, rather than the "trained." The RN generally "promote and move", the Army promote within the Regt. The RAF come to work, drink tea, go home.

An example - Foot and Mouth. The RN teams consisted of Officers, SNCOs, NCOs and Private equivalents. Any one of the team could be expected to carry out any task, gender and rank independent, from traffic control, slaughtering, body disposal, form filling, vet assistance, etc. The Army teams were detailed with Pvts doing traffic control and body moving, under the supervision of an LCpl/Cpl. The Cpl was responsible for supervising vehicle wash points and controlling access to the farm. The Sgt was responsible for the paperwork at the site, and was in overall control of the unit. There was no officer at a site, they were at the HQ in Cardiff. The RAF worked from home in North Wales!

The RN got requests to visit farms, the Army was requested not to visit farms, and were met by shotgun toting farmers on more than one occasion. The RN delivered easter eggs (paid for themselves) to farms, and got invited back for lunch! The RAF worked from home.

In the hotels (yes, we stayed in hotels), the Army had "Room Cpls", "Corridor Sgts", and "Floor Officers". They had room service bills, telephone bills and charges for damages. The RN let all their guys just get on with it. We had one person who went home to see his Mum and overslept the next morning. The RAF, er, worked from home......

Basically, the RN expects a certain level of independency - they are encouraged to move to private accommodation, the Army are not. Not sure what the RAF do....!

Yes but you could hardly have expected the RAF to bomb the farms and strafe flocks of sheep could you?

 

[eastlondonseagull]

I did chuckle when they were in the newly scrubbed hospital, showing the nuns pictures on their digital camera. Wonder whether they remembered that the previous night they'd snapped their cocks and arses?

 

[Chicken Run]

Commander surgeon Rick Jolly,top bloke,served with him on the Bristol,happy days.

When were you on the Bristol were you a guide stubsy youll be saying you served on the cavalair next

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

Commander surgeon Rick Jolly,top bloke,served with him on the Bristol,happy days.

If you seved on the Bristol you couldnt have done much Sea time as it was always alongside Fountain Lake Jetty as it was always broke!!

 

[Yorkie]

Spot on there.

I was in Polaris Submarines for 3 years and once we left the Jetty for our 3 month Patrol any class barriers were left behind and as an add on everyone had to do an Exam called your Part 3 ,in which you had to know every breaker and connection,fire extinguisher,electrical sysyems,nuclear systems,hydraulic systems, etc etc in that Submarine in case someone could not do his job and you were tested at the end of your Patrol with a walk thru the boat which took over 3 hours in which they asked you about everything possible!!

And all you got was a Set of Dolphins and a Tot of Rum at the end of it!!

Mind you I still have my uniform with my Dolphins on them now,and I have been out for 25 years.

I worked 200ft underground sending signals to said submarines.

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

Navy Speak,mind you this is from 30 years ago!!


Shiters=Pissed
Minger=Ugly
Shit on a raft=Toad in The Hole
Babies Heads=Steak and Kidney Puddings
Squitters=Shits
Pavement Pizza=Vomit on the floor
Dhobying=Washing your clothes
Sippers=Taste of your drink
Pigs=Officers
Splits=WRENS(Sorry Yorkie)
Skimmers=Naval People who serve on Ships,not on Submarines
Make and Mend=Afternoon off

 

[Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee]

If you seved on the Bristol you couldnt have done much Sea time as it was always alongside Fountain Lake Jetty as it was always broke!!

fountain lake jetty.......oh the memories!!

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

fountain lake jetty.......oh the memories!!

Yeah wasnt it a long walk up there thru the dockyard when you were pissed!!

Mind you had a nice NAAFI Canteen there