Barnes' Tattoo

[HastingsSeagull]

Jeremy Beadle had a massive penis, apparently.

On the other hand it was quite small.

Old ones are the best!

Clear in that picture though as most knew already, his baby's name and a hand print.

We were cracking up at Ulloa doing the same celebration, minus the key ingredient of a tatoo though He needs to get a seagull there to make up for it now!

 

[beardy gull]

Did anyone notice Spanish Len doing the same after he scored , except there wasn't a tattoo on his arm to kiss.

Ulloa is the new Albion daddy From The Argus)

"He celebrated by kissing the name of five-year-old daughter Sophia, inscribed on his forearm, and his wedding ring finger."

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Did anyone notice Spanish Len doing the same after he scored , except there wasn't a tattoo on his arm to kiss.

Argentinian Leonardo did indeed, perhaps he thought it was a Brighton thing after Barnes had done it?!

Ulloa does have one too. The argus report said he kissed his daughter's name and his wedding ring finger.

 

[SeagullSongs]

Barnes's

I think you'll find both are acceptable variations.

 

[Triggaaar]

I think you'll find both are acceptable variations.

No, I don't think there are.

 

[SeagullSongs]

No, I don't think there are.

Apostrophe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a particular case, Jesus' is very commonly written instead of Jesus's – even by people who would otherwise add 's in, for example, James's or Chris's. Jesus' is referred to as "an accepted liturgical archaism" in Hart's Rules."

 

[Triggaaar]

"As a particular case, Jesus' is very commonly written instead of Jesus's – even by people who would otherwise add 's in, for example, James's or Chris's. Jesus' is referred to as "an accepted liturgical archaism" in Hart's Rules."

I know Barnes has his doubters, and he has his followers too, but you're taking it to another level. From your quoted section:

"Classical, biblical, and similar names ending in a sibilant, especially if they are polysyllabic, do not take an added s in the possessive"

So is Barnes the messiah?

 

[stripeyshark]

No, I don't think there are.

They.

 

[BBassic]

Barnes's
off

:shakes head:

Not to be picky but I thought I should point out that Barnes' is also gramatically correct.

 

[BBassic]

Seems I've turned up late.

Carry on.

 

[Triggaaar]

They.

Thank you.

Not to be picky but I thought I should point out that Barnes' is also gramatically correct.

You're right to be picky, but I think you're wrong. And the link SeagullSongs posted seems to agree with me.

PS - grammatically

 

[scooter1]

Jeremy Beadle had a massive penis, apparently.

On the other hand it was quite small.

That made me guffaw. Very good

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

I know Barnes has his doubters, and he has his followers too, but you're taking it to another level. From your quoted section:

"Classical, biblical, and similar names ending in a sibilant, especially if they are polysyllabic, do not take an added s in the possessive"

So is Barnes the messiah?

No. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[SeagullSongs]

Thank you.

You're right to be picky, but I think you're wrong. And the link SeagullSongs posted seems to agree with me.

PS - grammatically

I was taught about 12 years ago at school that "James' cat" is actually the preferred way of writing "James's cat". This applies to all singular nouns ending with the letter s. As stated by the wikipedia page I linked...

 

[BBassic]

Thank you.

You're right to be picky, but I think you're wrong. And the link SeagullSongs posted seems to agree with me.

PS - grammatically

It's really a matter of preference. For instance St. James's Park, whilst correct, looks a bit odd. As does Charles Dickens's 'Great Expectations'

Different style guides and submission rules, if you're writing professionally, may expect you to use one or the other but they're both correct.

 

[Triggaaar]

I was taught about 12 years ago at school that "James' cat" is actually the preferred way of writing "James's cat". This applies to all singular nouns ending with the letter s. As stated by the wikipedia page I linked...

The wiki link you gave says@
"
Many respected authorities recommend that practically all singular nouns, including those ending with a sibilant sound, have possessive forms with an extra s after the apostrophe so that the spelling reflects the underlying pronunciation. Examples include Oxford University Press, the Modern Language Association, the BBC and The Economist.[19] Such authorities demand possessive singulars like these: Senator Jones's umbrella; Tony Adams's friend. Rules that modify or extend the standard principle have included the following:

If the singular possessive is difficult or awkward to pronounce with an added sibilant, do not add an extra s; these exceptions are supported by The Guardian,[20] Yahoo! Style Guide,[21] The American Heritage Book of English Usage.[22] Such sources permit possessive singulars like these: Socrates' later suggestion; or Achilles' heel if that is how the pronunciation is intended.
Classical, biblical, and similar names ending in a sibilant, especially if they are polysyllabic, do not take an added s in the possessive; among sources giving exceptions of this kind are The Times[23] and The Elements of Style, which make general stipulations, and Vanderbilt University,[24] which mentions only Moses and Jesus. As a particular case, Jesus' is very commonly written instead of Jesus's – even by people who would otherwise add 's in, for example, James's or Chris's. Jesus' is referred to as "an accepted liturgical archaism" in Hart's Rules.
"

Your example of Jesus' clearly comes under the biblical rule. The other rule (singular possessive is difficult or awkward to pronounce with an added sibilant) would apply to names like Bridges and Connors (url=http://oxforddictionaries.com/words/apostrophe]see here[/url], where it would be awkward to says Bridges's tattoo, or Connors's tattoo. With Barnes, you would say the extra s sound - Barnes's tattoo.

 

[Triggaaar]

Different style guides and submission rules, if you're writing professionally, may expect you to use one or the other but they're both correct.

The links I'm seeing online say that one way is correct, and the other is incorrect.

 

[SeagullSongs]

Learning English | BBC World Service

If you are using a regular plural noun ending in 's', you simply add an apostrophe ('):

'Both boys' toys had been broken by their elder brothers.'
'He was sentenced to ten days' prison.'

Otherwise, if the plural noun is irregular, like 'children' or 'women', you add apostrophe s ('s), as you would for singular nouns:

'The children's party was cancelled because so many were away on holiday.'
'The child's illness was so severe that he remained in hospital for four weeks.'


However, if the singular noun ends in 's' as in your example, Everson, you can either just add an apostrophe (') or apostrophe 's' ('s):

'All of Dickens' novels have now been adapted for television.'
'All of Dickens's novels have now been adapted for television.'

Note that these spellings are pronounced differently. If you simply add an apostrophe, the pronunciation does not change, but if you add apostrophe 's' ('s), the possessive is pronounced /iz/.

With singular nouns ending in double 's', as in your examples, Jeff, I think it is more normal to add apostrophe 's' ('s) because the spelling with apostrophe s then indicates the pronunciation required:

'The boss's secretary resigned.'
'The princess's diamonds were worth two million pounds.'

In these last examples, incidentally, the plural form would have the same pronunciation as the singular:

'The princesses's diamonds were worth two million pounds.'
( = more than one princess)

'The princesses' diamonds were worth two million pounds.'
( = more than one princess)

Only the spelling or the context would indicate how many princesses there were!

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It appears both are correct and due to preference and intended pronunciation.

 

[Sheebo]

I must admit I've come across these tats before and would consider getting my littlens hand print tatood. worried it may be a bit chavy tho.. So far nobodies given an opinion as [MENTION=1022]Wilko[/MENTION] asked and I'd be interested to hear opinions in as less a vain way as possible like...

 

[Ninja Elephant]

I must admit I've come across these tats before and would consider getting my littlens hand print tatood. worried it may be a bit chavy tho.. So far nobodies given an opinion as [MENTION=1022]Wilko[/MENTION] asked and I'd be interested to hear opinions in as less a vain way as possible like...

Forget what NSC thinks! It's a personal gesture, if you want it there you get it done. If someone else tells you they don't like it, you tell them to do one. From a Ninja Elephant. I got your back pal!