Barcelona: Van hits crowds on Ramblas tourist area

[spence]

It would not come as a shock to me if it was some Catalan independentista nutter trying to kill tourists with the current situation there.

 

[melias shoes]

13 dead. Sky news.

 

[Kaiser_Soze]

Clearly It's going to be ISIS

We need a coherent strategy for combating this, otherwise it's going to be on repeat for a long time

And there we have identified the problem. It's very difficult to have a "coherent strategy" on lone wolf or small terror cell attacks. The whole War on Terror was a ridiculous attempt in the first place and inflamed the situation. I'm not suggesting we do nothing, I'm just highlighting that there are very limited ways to deal with what is effectively a guerrilla war.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

It would not come as a shock to me if it was some Catalan independentista nutter trying to kill tourists with the current situation there.

It's far more likely to be ETA, but no doubt we shall find out sooner or later.

The last ETA attack was in 2011.
Not sure this attack fits their modus operandi anyway.

 

[Seasider78]

Particularly sad is the people who would rather film dead and injured people and then post them on social media that help the wounded

 

[BigGully]

Impossible sadly. What are you going to do? Ban vehicles from towns?

I am not sure your detective instincts are needed at present, you seem to be busy chasing down 'anti tourist' activists and ETA ..............

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I am not sure your detective instincts are needed at present, you seem to be busy chasing down 'anti tourist' activists and ETA ..............

Don't be an absolute prick your whole life.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Duplicate post

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Was there 3 weeks ago

 

[carlzeiss]

It would not come as a shock to me if it was some Catalan independentista nutter trying to kill tourists with the current situation there.

Dream on you crazy diamond .

 

[Durlston]

13 dead. Sky news.

Enough is enough. Cowardice of the highest level. Why so much hatred and bitterness in the world? I really do despair.

 

[alfredmizen]

It's far more likely to be ETA, but no doubt we shall find out sooner or later.

Yeah because ETA have got plenty of form for that

Stupid fvcking post

 

[The_Viper]

Dream on you crazy diamond .

I agree, It probably will be. Just trying to look at all possibilities even if I think you're bang on.

Before having total meltdowns please read on in the topic. You're all looking a bit thick given I addressed it twice.

 

[BigGully]

Don't be an absolute prick your whole life.

Its a comment on what you said, you even offered a link, anti tourist protests you stated, shortly after people had been mowed down and killed, you sneeringly finished your point with an ironic, 'But, in truth, it will almost certainly be Islamic nonsense, won't it?'

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

And there we have identified the problem. It's very difficult to have a "coherent strategy" on lone wolf or small terror cell attacks. The whole War on Terror was a ridiculous attempt in the first place and inflamed the situation. I'm not suggesting we do nothing, I'm just highlighting that there are very limited ways to deal with what is effectively a guerrilla war.

Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong. We have no way of knowing how bad the situation would have been had America left Al Qaeda and other Islamic groups in place in the Middle East and Africa. This is why your opinion on the War on Terror is just that, opinion not proven fact. Remember that war was declared by Islamic groups on the west not the other way around. This is very often forgotten in the historical re-write.

 

[cunning fergus]

Clearly It's going to be ISIS

We need a coherent strategy for combating this, otherwise it's going to be on repeat for a long time

How about we all convert to Islam, that would stop it wouldn't it?

Vulnerable white working class girls in UK cities should certainly consider it as a coherent strategy to prevent industrial scale sexual exploitation given recent events.......radical problems need radical solutions.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The last ETA attack was in 2011.
Not sure this attack fits their modus operandi anyway.

Yeah because ETA have got plenty of form for that

Stupid fvcking post

600 dead in the last 40 years, but, NB is right, they used car bombs, rather than driving into crowds.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Its a comment on what you said, you even offered a link, anti tourist protests you stated, shortly after people had been mowed down and killed, you sneeringly finished your point with an ironic, 'But, in truth, it will almost certainly be Islamic nonsense, won't it?'

Well done for taking my post entirely out of context.

The reason nobody else was stupid enough to read it like you did, is that I was very obviously responding to [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] explaining the unrest the other poster was referring to. And then made clear my view that THIS attack would no doubt be Islamic related.

'Sneeringly'? You're an idiot

 

[Kaiser_Soze]

Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong. We have no way of knowing how bad the situation would have been had America left Al Qaeda and other Islamic groups in place in the Middle East and Africa. This is why your opinion on the War on Terror is just that, opinion not proven fact. Remember that war was declared by Islamic groups on the west not the other way around. This is very often forgotten in the historical re-write.

Ok, if we're going down that route........a group of Saudi funded, mainly Saudi nationals who apparently were Al Qaeda terrorists attacked America. The US response, which we assisted with, was to then attack and invade Afghanistan and Pakistan to try and defeat the Taliban, another "terrorist" group who up until that point, hadn't actually fought anyone outside their own country. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter etc etc.

Bush didn't follow the Saudi angle because there were too many American interests that would have been upset by that. Whilst it may be my opinion, I'm fairly certain that attacking an Islamic group that had no responsibility for 9/11 provoked a lot of the violence we have seen since 9/11 and abominations such as Guantanamo Bay have fueled the propaganda used by ISIS/Al Qaeda etc

 

[BigGully]

Well done for taking my post entirely out of context.

The reason nobody else was stupid enough to read it like you did, is that I was very obviously responding to [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION] explaining the unrest the other poster was referring to. And then made clear my view that THIS attack would no doubt be Islamic related.

'Sneeringly'? You're an idiot

Islamic nonsense, you said, well played .....