[Travel] Bailif advice needed

[maltaseagull]

Have you asked them to send you the paperwork establishing their authority? If they are real they won’t have a problem doing so.
If you are worried about giving them your new address details, ask them questions about the case to establish if they are who they say they are. Say you are worried about it being a scam and you want reassurance.
What details do they have? If they have your full name old address and can give you detail about court order dates and detail of the incident including dates more likely it’s not a scam.
I would not do anything until you have the paperwork and tell them that and you want to cooperate.

This seems perfectly reasonable.

I appreciate not having lived in the UK for some time that I am out of touch but I would never accept anything as official and legally binding if all I had received was a text message.

 

[darkwolf666]

This seems perfectly reasonable.

I appreciate not having lived in the UK for some time that I am out of touch but I would never accept anything as official and legally binding if all I had received was a text message.

100% this, in this day and age of technology shisters and con men. I can hardly believe some are saying pay up and get on with your life.

Think I might forward them the email I got from that nice Nigerian Prince I've been sending money to.

Make some checks into the validity, don't pay yet and don't ignore, just in case it is genuine!

 

[drew]

Have you asked them to send you the paperwork establishing their authority? If they are real they won’t have a problem doing so.
If you are worried about giving them your new address details, ask them questions about the case to establish if they are who they say they are. Say you are worried about it being a scam and you want reassurance.
What details do they have? If they have your full name old address and can give you detail about court order dates and detail of the incident including dates more likely it’s not a scam.
I would not do anything until you have the paperwork and tell them that and you want to cooperate.

Rather than get them to send you stuff, ie you'd be giving them the address, just ring them from the phone they've already sent a text to and just ask for the details of which court it was heard in and any reference number. Then check it from there.

 

[maltaseagull]

Rather than get them to send you stuff, ie you'd be giving them the address, just ring them from the phone they've already sent a text to and just ask for the details of which court it was heard in and any reference number. Then check it from there.

I think I would find a solicitors in the local area and ask them to send the details to them. (Even if I hadn't spoken to the solicitors yet)

 

[happypig]

Another option to avoid giving your address out is to send it to the local Post Office for collection.
If you address it to Post Restante at the post office, they will hold it there and you can collect it.
You need to register but it's very easy.
Details here : https://www.postoffice.co.uk/mail/p...3_1617897481_439999aa2b463ceabe63b7b8c0cf3601

 

[drew]

I think I would find a solicitors in the local area and ask them to send the details to them. (Even if I hadn't spoken to the solicitors yet)

Why go to the expense of employing a solicitor when all you need to find out is which court was involved and then make your own enquiries with them.

 

[maltaseagull]

Why go to the expense of employing a solicitor when all you need to find out is which court was involved and then make your own enquiries with them.

You don't need to!!!!!

Just send them the address of a solicitors.

If they are scammers, they will back off.

 

[LadySeagull]

No they won't and it doesn't necessarily sound like a scam. Any delay, if this relates to a Local Authority PCN, can see the bailiff return and clamp/remove the car, which is allowed under the rules that Council 'decriminalised' parking enforcement works to at the very late stage that this one appears to be at.

This is likely to need the TEC forms I have explained already to reset it, if there was a PCN from a Local Authority.

There was no summons.

There was no court claim or hearing.

That's not how Local Authority decriminalised parking works. I can only say again, get thee to pepipoo forum. You won't regret it.

 

[Justice]

Apparently a tactic that this particular firm uses is to turn up and clamp your car till the debt is paid.
I have no idea if this is legal or not, but it is probably not a good idea to leave the car outside your house until it is all sorted.

The car has been sold, these firms don’t have access to DVLA data bases as far as I’m aware. They can only search for the car which had the original ticket.

 

[Bodian]

I can only say again, get thee to pepipoo forum. You won't regret it.

OP has http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=138813

 

[Weststander]

OP has http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=138813

Looks like not originally updating DVLA of a change of address, ended up being a killer blow.

 

[LadySeagull]

Why? I used to post on pepipoo when I had time, and HC Andersen and Neil B are VERY knowledgeable regulars there who are giving their views and asking questions...

Yet the OP appears to have only read what cp8759 said...I've never heard of him, or can't remember him anyway. Why stop at the first short damning reply and not answer what the others are saying about challenging the sum of money?

HCA in particular has set out all the issues and says:

You did not receive the Notice to Owner which follows the original PCN issued to your car. This occurred because you had not provided DVLA with correct information to allow authorities to serve notices on you. Despite this, it is possible to reset the matter if it is caught in time.

But you haven't. You failed to respond to the Order for Recovery in time - see the process: https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/unde...rcement-process

Although you could spend time filling in exact details and establishing when various notices were sent, frankly I wouldn't bother, I would focus your attention on the financially substantive issue of the enforcement agent's charges which at present represent £310 of £393.


So, firstly I would ask the agent what address is on the warrant.

Next, if not your current one then I would pay them £83 for the penalty (surcharged penalty of £75 + £8 court registration. If you pay online, then send a covering letter to the agent and the council to explain what you've done.

 

[Notters]

I can only assume from the current owner of our old house who we left forwarding details with at the time of the move.

I think I'm right in saying that they have no right to contact you using it, or even hold it, unless you have given them express consent under GDPR rules. Unless brexit has changed this?

 

[swindonseagull]

OP seems to have done a runner from this thread.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I think I'm right in saying that they have no right to contact you using it, or even hold it, unless you have given them express consent under GDPR rules. Unless brexit has changed this?

My understanding of GDPR/Data Protection Act 2018 is If they are court appointed bailiffs executing a warrant issued by the courts then they have a legitimate interest to hold and process personal data to help in recovery of the debt.

In the case of debt recovery for credit cards etc new t&c’s signed when you take out a card (or updated t&cs sent through when the law changed) give consent for details to be passed on to recovery companies should you fall behind on payments etc.

 

[dadams2k11]

I would call up the courts and ask if I had been issued a ccj, or have a warrant our in my name and address.

 

[East Staffs Gull]

OP seems to have done a runner from this thread.

And hasn’t left a forwarding address.

 

[BN9 BHA]

OP seems to have done a runner from this thread.

Maybe a bailiff has taken his laptop.

 

[Weststander]

Maybe a bailiff has taken his laptop.

The next update will be on:



LockStock attempting the Glasgow Kiss on those chaps.

 

[dangull]

Well the OP has had a lot of advice. It would be interesting how this case goes, good or bad?