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[Albion] Bad record at home v teams down bottom / relegation zone



ChickenDipper

Active member
Nov 8, 2024
141
Turns out it’s largely nonsense - this line many of us, including myself, have been trotting out. Against the 3 relegated teams at home, in the last 3 seasons

21/22 - W1 D1 L1
22/23 - W3
23/24 - W1 D2

Won 5/9 (ok)
Lost 1/9 (good)

Maybe we all have been fooled a bit? Not as bad a record as we like to make out?
 




Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,299
Cumbria
Turns out it’s largely nonsense - this line many of us, including myself, have been trotting out. Against the 3 relegated teams at home, in the last 3 seasons

21/22 - W1 D1 L1
22/23 - W3
23/24 - W1 D2

Won 5/9 (ok)
Lost 1/9 (good)

Maybe we all have been fooled a bit? Not as bad a record as we like to make out?
Ah - but what about our record against teams who were in the bottom three when we played them? I guess that's how we see it - we give them a lifeline! Eg - Wolves were in the bottom three when we drew against them, but pretty sure they won't get relegated.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
Turns out it’s largely nonsense - this line many of us, including myself, have been trotting out. Against the 3 relegated teams at home, in the last 3 seasons

21/22 - W1 D1 L1
22/23 - W3
23/24 - W1 D2

Won 5/9 (ok)
Lost 1/9 (good)

Maybe we all have been fooled a bit? Not as bad a record as we like to make out?
Of course it is.

This season we have only dropped unexpected points against Ipswich, Wolves and Forest. With Wolves the game was won but for the debacle at the end, and it turns out Forest aren't actually a lower league team.
 


ChickenDipper

Active member
Nov 8, 2024
141
Ah - but what about our record against teams who were in the bottom three when we played them? I guess that's how we see it - we give them a lifeline! Eg - Wolves were in the bottom three when we drew against them, but pretty sure they won't get relegated.
Yes the thought crossed my mind too - but that’s way too complicated to work out!
 


Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
2,573
Depends on where you want to go.

Winning 5 out of 9 home against the bottom 3 isn't good enough for a team that wants CL or EL.
 






Milano

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2012
3,951
Sussex but not by the sea
You need to win these games so you are not in a must win position when your european rivals, the likes of Villa, Newcastle, West Ham, Man U, Spurs etc. come to the Amex.
Beating City to me means we should be able to afford a draw vs e.g. Villa. But not if we don't beat Soton.
The only result on paper which was really bad this season was Ipswich. Neither Wolves nor Forest can be thought of as 100% home bankers, they felt worse because we led in both games.
Tonight is an absolute must win IMO.
 






Barham's tash

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2013
3,732
Rayners Lane
I worry that we raise our game against better opposition and tend to struggle with fluidity against lower table teams who tend to deploy the ultra low block away from home. Not navigating a successful tactic against said tactics was RDZs undoing and hopefully it won't be Fab's.

The record is almost irrelevant as for me our performances in terms of free flowing attacking football against these teams tends to dip markedly.
 


Milano

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2012
3,951
Sussex but not by the sea
We should be beating teams like(insert some tinpot club)
cringe :facepalm:
No one is saying that. What is being said is if we want Europe again then we need to win these games.
No EPL game is easy but some are more winnable than others, this is one of them.
To beat City we needed them to be less than 100% if City were 100% then we lose. It wouldn't matter what we did.
To beat Soton we need to be at 100% if we are 100% then we win. It won't matter what they do.
 


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