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[Football] Arsenal’s Ben White



Hugo Rune

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If England get lucky enough to play Spain and Sanchez is in goal I will be very firmly hoping Sanchez has an absolute blinder. Chances are he won’t even have a save of note to make though.

I’m another who will really have to think about my loyalties if it comes down to England v Albion Player.
 




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Maguire, Henderson and Phillips in then.. in form and fit apparently. The only way White was going to get in was if there was a crisis and utility players needed.. Walker can be classed as utility - has played back3 and full-back (wing-back). There is no need to have 4 right backs in the squad.. they may all offer slightly different things, but none of them are that far in front of the others to mean we need 4 of them.. TAA, Walker and one other would have been plenty. We look light in midfield, Henderson a risk with injury/form, Rice just back and Phillips just back..
10 defenders and 5 midfielders, 3 of which are defensive midfielders.. Ward-Prowse is unlucky.
 


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Really won't be bothered if England lose to a Brighton player.

At Stat Towers the biggest (only) cheer of the evening was when Moder scored against England. :down:
 








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Agree with all of this.

Coady isn’t as good as Dunk either.

Still hope our other (BHA) players do well..... and Southgate goes as soon as possible.


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I rate Dunk and Coady. Both are great communicators and organisers too.

What's Mings got, that they haven't? Pace, but normally used to cover his own mistakes, Micah Richards was the same ..... NOT a firm basis for an international defender.
 


KeegansHairPiece

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Unfortunately to be eligible for England you have too play for a "massive club". Dunk was never going to be eligible, I was hoping White still had a driving licence or something with a Leeds address on it.

Sam Johnstone – West Brom
Jordan Pickford – Everton

Conor Coady – Wolves
Tyrone Mings – Aston Villa

Jude Bellingham – Dortmund
Kalvin Phillips – Leeds Utd
Declan Rice – West Ham

Dominic Calvert-Lewin – Everton
Jack Grealish – Aston Villa
Jadon Sancho - Dortmund

Joking aside, a fair chunk of the squad is outside our so called big 6 clubs.
 


Weststander

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So do I, especially with how light we are in central midfield. Shame as I'd rather 4-3-3 so we can get more of our quality attackers on the pitch rather than a back 3 and two wing backs.

Pickford

Shaw
Maguire
Stones
Walker

Rice
Hendersn
Mount

Foden
Kane
Sacho

would be my team if everyone was fit.

You're right imho to leave out Sterling, he's in awful form and it's affecting him psychologically.

But GS loves him, so he'll play.

I'd play Chilwell instead of Shaw.
 




Icy Gull

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Sam Johnstone – West Brom
Jordan Pickford – Everton

Conor Coady – Wolves
Tyrone Mings – Aston Villa

Jude Bellingham – Dortmund
Kalvin Phillips – Leeds Utd
Declan Rice – West Ham

Dominic Calvert-Lewin – Everton
Jack Grealish – Aston Villa
Jadon Sancho - Dortmund

Joking aside, a fair chunk of the squad is outside our so called big 6 clubs.

Most of the Top Six best players are foreign aren’t they?
 


Weststander

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Sam Johnstone – West Brom
Jordan Pickford – Everton

Conor Coady – Wolves
Tyrone Mings – Aston Villa

Jude Bellingham – Dortmund
Kalvin Phillips – Leeds Utd
Declan Rice – West Ham

Dominic Calvert-Lewin – Everton
Jack Grealish – Aston Villa
Jadon Sancho - Dortmund

Joking aside, a fair chunk of the squad is outside our so called big 6 clubs.

Villa are thought of as a big club. The bias isn't to strictly 'ESL' clubs.
 


vegster

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Madness going in to the tournament looks like 5 at the back with 1 of 3 centre backs possibly injured so will end up playing right backs at centre backs. Ming's and Maguire don't play in back 3 at club level but Ben White does, I am left very confused. Let hope the attacking players can carry the team.

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Maguire and Henderson get to share the regular " Crocks " berth on this squad then , in years past there has always been just the one standout will he/won't he be fit enough selection. Nice to see Southgate share out the award....

They are in great company, we all remember Beckham's Metertarsal, Robson's shoulder and Owen's dodgy Hamstrings... " We would have won ( fill in year) if only we could have got ( fill in as appropriate) fit...."
 




Swansman

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Gareth Southgate... a weak man. Bunch of players that, based on their season, got no business playing in the national team currently, while leaving out plenty of highly competent in-form players. Going to be punished.
 




Pavilionaire

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That squad will be all the more puzzling if Southgate starts with 3 at the back.

For me we should be playing 4-2-3-1. I would have started with Dunk alongside Maguire and - if he wasn't fit - Tarkowski alongside him. Either way, I'd have James and Chilwell alongside Gareth's 2 shit CBs, then Rice and Henderson holding, Grealish on the left, Foden on the right and Mount in the middle with Kane up top.
 








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Is there any chance of us playing France at any point? I'm sure Mbappe and Griezmann against Phillips and Coady is a dual to whet the lips of any neutral fan.
 


DumLum

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West, West, West Sussex.
Sam Johnstone – West Brom
Jordan Pickford – Everton

Conor Coady – Wolves
Tyrone Mings – Aston Villa

Jude Bellingham – Dortmund
Kalvin Phillips – Leeds Utd
Declan Rice – West Ham

Dominic Calvert-Lewin – Everton
Jack Grealish – Aston Villa
Jadon Sancho - Dortmund

Joking aside, a fair chunk of the squad is outside our so called big 6 clubs.

With maybe the exception of West Brom the media see all of those as "massive clubs" because of what they achieved 50 odd years ago.
 




SweatyMexican

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Would’ve been amazing to see Ben White at a tournament, but on the bright side, he gets a well earned rest over the summer.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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You're right imho to leave out Sterling, he's in awful form and it's affecting him psychologically.

But GS loves him, so he'll play.

I'd play Chilwell instead of Shaw.

My thinking is our defense is the weakest part of the team so it seemed sensible to give them as much help as possible - Shaw and Maguire play week in and week out at united and likewise Stones and Walker at man city and Stones and Mauire have played plenty of times together for England so at least they won't have to worry about building partnerships.
 


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