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[Albion] Arsenal goal - handball?

















A1X

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It’s not but it’s a funny potential thing to,wind up the Arsenal fans even more (who are STILL fuming on the social media)
 


Triggaaar

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Never even occurred to me, but shades of handball from Saka?

Nah, not deliberate.

If Saka and Dunk went to head the ball, and just bumped into each other, then that's fair play. It's a contact sport. However - what's the rule if Sake had no intention of getting the ball (he didn't), and he simply nudged Dunk as he was about to head it? Is that allowed or is that a foul?
 


Stumpy Tim

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Nah, not deliberate.

If Saka and Dunk went to head the ball, and just bumped into each other, then that's fair play. It's a contact sport. However - what's the rule if Sake had no intention of getting the ball (he didn't), and he simply nudged Dunk as he was about to head it? Is that allowed or is that a foul?
I'm not sure about the rule this season, but last season if the ball touches an arm in the build-up to a goal, it was to be disallowed. The handball rule is a mess either way.
 




Triggaaar

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I'm not sure about the rule this season, but last season if the ball touches an arm in the build-up to a goal, it was to be disallowed. The handball rule is a mess either way.

We're talking about different things. Last season it was ok if the ball accidentally touched the arm of the player who gets the assist, but disallowed if it touched the arm of the scorer.

I was asking if you're allowed to nudge an opponent as they're about to play the ball.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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I'm not sure about the rule this season, but last season if the ball touches an arm in the build-up to a goal, it was to be disallowed. The handball rule is a mess either way.
If you're not sure about the LAW regarding handball this season but still consider it a mess either way, I'm not sure of your reasoning.
 






Albion my Albion

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I'm confused as to whether it's a sport or a violation of football rules.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Because the law seems to change every five minutes.
Once a season before it starts. I reality it's not hard to keep updated. Not really having a pop at you but I'm amazed the amount of people who turn up each season not having a scooby about the law changes. They then show themselves up by shouting and screaming when said laws are adhered to.
 




thedonkeycentrehalf

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If Saka and Dunk went to head the ball, and just bumped into each other, then that's fair play. It's a contact sport. However - what's the rule if Sake had no intention of getting the ball (he didn't), and he simply nudged Dunk as he was about to head it? Is that allowed or is that a foul?
Dunk does this a lot himself - nudges the opponent to either try to win the header or to let it drop over his head.

Unfortunately, yesterday he got caught out a couple of times trying this and not being strong enough including for the goal.
 


Stumpy Tim

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Once a season before it starts. I reality it's not hard to keep updated. Not really having a pop at you but I'm amazed the amount of people who turn up each season not having a scooby about the law changes. They then show themselves up by shouting and screaming when said laws are adhered to.
You are having a pop at me, but fortunately I couldn’t give a shit and will carry on as before
 


Perkino

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I thought it was handball from where I was standing and all replays I've seen show the same from my point of view
 


Flounce

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We're talking about different things. Last season it was ok if the ball accidentally touched the arm of the player who gets the assist, but disallowed if it touched the arm of the scorer.

I was asking if you're allowed to nudge an opponent as they're about to play the ball.
Given the number of nudges made in the box on Albion players over the last few years I suggest it’s OK
 




tigertim68

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Don’t care either way , they got the softest penalty down at the Amex last season, season before they again got soft decisions going their way , so good seeing descions going our way for a change
 


Mike Small

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I think that does hit his hand/lower arm by the way the ball changes direction. Not deliberately. Don't know the latest rules in whether VAR should have intervened.

All elementary if Dunk uses his body, keeps it simple and wins the header.
 


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