[Albion] Are you going to pay £14.95 to watch us vs WBA?

[Springal]

This may have been answered on the other thread - do we know if pubs can take part in this scheme? If so, any idea how much it’s costing them?

‘Legally’ I doubt it

 

[Springal]

Will the results of this poll be taken seriously by the club? As one who will pay to watch I am a little disturbed at the toxicity this PPV might cause. I didn’t realise there would be quite such a reaction against it. The club cannot just ignore such negativity...or can they?

I look forward to Barber’s next comments on this. I suggest TB’s investment, the non furloughing of staff and the comparatively low transfer fees spent may feature

But it’s not really a Brighton thing is it, it’s a premier league thing and we are going along with it

 

[Justice]

So this whole thread of chest beating is over a fiver a game? A pint? Maybe. In a wider context, though, other folk have rather more special agendas, judging by the salty replies I have received to various posts.

And as I have said repeatedly, once I can go again I will. Cost and time notwithstanding. I have missed only maybe 3 home games during the Amex era, all unavoidable. Not a 'superfan' (FFS!) just a regular. Right now I'm just looking at a glass a third full and trying to persuade myself a glass a third full is better than an empty glass.

And as I have also said, at my age and respiratory status it would be foolish for me to attend presently. And yet I support the removal of restrictions so those who can go (the young and well) can go. I'd even be happy for the club to sell on my 2 seats all the while I can't attend.

What's tiresome is the folk (not you, El Pres, I just in case I'm not being clear) moaning about £15, even though their ST will be reimbursed; complaining about the club seeking 'extra' money while moaning about us not buying another striker; moaning about everything even though they don't go to the Amex anyway because they don't like the 'corporate' flavour, lack of standing, opportunity for smoking, loss of 'banter' (the right to call spade a spade). Etc Etc. The narrative being that the modern game is rubbish and Tony Bloom is a grasping money whore. Oh, and instead of seeking ways to make more money, Tony should be handing money over to deserving smaller clubs like Crawley. Oh, and Crawley should be televised weekly with the opportunity to charge viewers the same amount as Brighton will charge; the advertisers are bound to play along with that, given the millions of Crawley fans worldwide who are bound to pay their money and tune in. Have I missed anything? Bloom OUT! Barber OUT!!!!

Bore off, we aren’t all sheep.

 

[Springal]

The amount of melts on here previously saying how lucky we are to have Barber, I find the fella patronising and on a mission to empty your wallets into the clubs account. Fall on hard time’s don’t ever think the club will care, they will just move on to the next mug on the list.

And ultimately he is Tony Blooms man and is set objectives by the board as the CEO. So while I think he is very good at his job, sometimes his communication can be poor - ultimately he is just doing what the club want him to. I don’t believe he is ‘going rogue’

 

[Cadiz Seagull]

Good point, but not in the current circumstances. Inviting mates round is questionable to start with. Yes fill the lounge with pizza, pies & beer and have a good time but right now you can't.
I'm surprised at the result though, 14% saying yes. What does that come down to in viewer numbers though? 14% of 30,000 (Amex) or 14% of our fan base (Sussex)?
Plus you have to have Sky to start with (not sports but at least a subscription).

Is that correct, this PPV lark is only available to existing Sky customers? I just assumed it would be open to anybody willing to pay, which I would but I don't already have Sky.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's a little thing called "cashflow" for some HWT. Not everybody, particularly in current circumstances, can afford to pay their season ticket money and then pay out AGAIN to watch on PPV.

Two ways this could have been resolved for me:

1) Refund the ST money then I could afford to pay for the PPV games

2) Keep my ST money (forever) but give me a FREE live stream for our games

But the club wants BOTH!

In one of his multiple missives on this, Barber said "unfortunately, fans will always want everything for free".

Really? He doesn't get it does he? WE'RE the greedy ******** are we?

I'll accept the cash flow argument, but not the double payment argument. I also feel that reimbursement now is unfeasible - it would require all players at all clubs agreeing a massive pay cut, and the rich clubs would refuse and would gain an absurd competitive edge as a result. My reasoning is explained below.

If Bloom supports the £15 charges, there must be a reason. I really don't think too many BHA supporters will go to the wall if they fork out £15 for games. But I wonder what they will say if BHA goes to the wall later this year or early next owing to cash flow issues?

Bottom line is that if people really disapprove of the charging, don't buy the product. Likewise, there was plenty of time in the summer to cancel the season ticket, but people took a gamble and kept it on. And now we are where we are.

Also, being able to watch every game isn't a right, and unless the gates are opened to all fans soon BHA and many other clubs will look very different in 12 or 18 months.

Finally, to be fair, the club doesn't want 'both'. Not permanently anyway. By law, anyone unable to attend now will be reimbursed (I recall being asked months ago if I wanted to be reimbursed for 19-20 missed games or carry my money over to 20-21. I chose to gamble. It will be the same at the end of this season).

If clubs decide to hang on to all the ST money and insist that payment be carried over to whenever we can attend again (and this is not what happened at the end of last season, so the temporary 'double payment' is just that, temporary), this will be contested by fan groups, perhaps in court. I assume that if you buy tickets for 20-21 and find that in fact your money will buy you 21-22 instead, 'no refunds', you are not getting what you paid for.

BHA may be hanging on to our season ticket money for longer than it should but what choice does it have? Unless all clubs sign up to a new austere money management regime, imposing global pay cuts on players, they remain in competition with one another. Call me selfish but I don't want my club to make a unilateral massive noble gesture, lose players, become uncompetitve, get relegated, and head off on a downward spiral.

Lastly, (and this isn't directed at you, obvs), perhaps I'd feel a bit more charitable if poorer fans would shut the **** up about BHA not signing a striker, not handing over piles of cash to keep smaller clubs afloat etc., as if we live in some sort of socialist utopia with only greedy football clubs insisting on acting as capitaists when what they should be doing is giving away all their money and buying massively expensive strikers .

 

[drew]

Is that correct, this PPV lark is only available to existing Sky customers? I just assumed it would be open to anybody willing to pay, which I would but I don't already have Sky.

Pretty sure you can probably watch without a sky sports subscription, or even a sky sports box. More investigation needed.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Bore off, we aren’t all sheep.

Your argument is elegant.

Barber OUT!

 

[Sheebo]

Hold on, I’ve stayed away from the other thread mainly as have ponced sky go and BT - isn’t it on one of them right?

 

[Sheebo]

Omg I’ve just checked, it’s on box office isn’t it! Can a pub get it?

 

[Driver8]

Omg I’ve just checked, it’s on box office isn’t it! Can a pub get it?

Shouldn’t worry, they will all be shut by then.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

The £15 thing has deflected from the fact that 5.30pm on a Monday is an absolutely ridiculous time for a game of football.

I never thought I'd see the day when The Albion would clash with an episode of Neighbours

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[Neville's Breakfast]

No. Happy to listen to the commentary on the radio. Watching football on tv is not a satisfactory alternative to watching live. I just don’t feel the need to watch every game if it is on tv.

 

[Simster]

This idea really is the Premier League's "poll tax" moment.

It is a disastrous own goal that shows no empathy to the supporter or the rest of the football world further down the leagues.

I don't know, I just feel that if it was part of a wider solution to fixing football's Covid issues, there could have been a good deal of sympathy for it. But this isn't about that, it's simply a money grab that creates so many more problems than it fixes.

 

[Change at Barnham]

The result at Palace will have an enormous effect on whether Brighton fans decide to pay watch £15 to watch the game against WBA.

 

[CAPTAIN GREALISH]

Yes

 

[Rinkmaster]

How are they going to divide the spoils? When albion play for instance Liverpool. Surely the big boys will want the lions share of the take seeing as their fan base is much larger. No one will be able to tell whether the money is coming from albion fans or Liverpool. I don't think the big boys will settle for 50-50

 

[*Gullsworth*]

I am going up to the top of the tree for my freebie....we still play at Withdean don't we?

 

[Rinkmaster]

Forgot to say my answer to the poll is a resounding no. Think I may go and watch Lewes and see some honest football

 

[WATFORD zero]

Good man. Wise words. Initial outburst understandable. With Boris at the helm, one constantly feels that someone is about to rob you, shag your sister and burn down your house.

I wouldn't worry as there's no way that he'd be capable of getting the right house.

I started reading the thread thinking no, but have now changed my mind to yes. It's simply replacing the money I normally spend on my ST and it's going to the Albion