pastafarian
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carry on breeding or are we too many?
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[Misc] Are there too many humans
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I don't know, Pasta, but there's never any staff in Currys PC World when you want serving!
Same at Homebase.I don't know, Pasta, but there's never any staff in Currys PC World when you want serving!
It does seem we need MORE humans doesn't it?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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There might well be globally, nothing anyone can do to address it.
father_and_son
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Far too many humans on this planet.... however, no humane or reasonable way to reduce that number in the medium term as too many cultural and religious barriers to any education programme.
The Donald will deal directly with any fears you may have, on this issue.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyzBoHo5EI
Maybe. But three things to consider:
1. What matters is the overall impact not the numbers. The key problem is consumption not population and the vast majority of that consumption still happens in rich countries, where population is not growing.
2. As others have said, there is little that can be done. But not because of religion culture etc (Italy has the opposite problem - a shrinking population) but because the population trajectory is set already based on the people that have already been born (the video explains this brilliantly - it's not obvious until it is explained...and then it is very obvious). It will peak globally around 11bn and then, very likely, fall. So there is very little we can do that would make any difference to numbers. We just have to manage the impact. In terms of technology we can manage that. But only with strong interventions in the market and far greater equality. So we may indeed to be stuffed - but because of poor politics, not population.
3. Even if we did decide we wanted to 'manage' population growth, there are few options that have been proven to work beyond the obvious, and these are long term. Decent and accessible health care (this includes access to contraception btw - it needs to be part of a good primary healthcare system) . Education (especially for girls), improved economic opportunities etc. The China one child policy was only possible with a draconiam, totalitarian state. And even then there are doubts whether it was actually effective, certainly outside of the major cities.
Maybe. But three things to consider:
1. What matters is the overall impact not the numbers. The key problem is consumption not population and the vast majority of that consumption still happens in rich countries, where population is not growing.
2. As others have said, there is little that can be done. But not because of religion culture etc (Italy has the opposite problem - a shrinking population) but because the population trajectory is set already based on the people that have already been born (the video explains this brilliantly - it's not obvious until it is explained...and then it is very obvious). It will peak globally around 11bn and then, very likely, fall. So there is very little we can do that would make any difference to numbers. We just have to manage the impact. In terms of technology we can manage that. But only with strong interventions in the market and far greater equality. So we may indeed to be stuffed - but because of poor politics, not population.
3. Even if we did decide we wanted to 'manage' population growth, there are few options that have been proven to work beyond the obvious, and these are long term. Decent and accessible health care (this includes access to contraception btw - it needs to be part of a good primary healthcare system) . Education (especially for girls), improved economic opportunities etc. The China one child policy was only possible with a draconiam, totalitarian state. And even then there are doubts whether it was actually effective, certainly outside of the major cities.
Durlston
"You plonker, Rodney!"
Yes.
Britain could soon become like China did and call me old fashioned but I think you should be at least engaged or married before spitting out a sprog.
Britain could soon become like China did and call me old fashioned but I think you should be at least engaged or married before spitting out a sprog.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
- 2,548
Yes.
Britain could soon become like China did and call me old fashioned but I think you should be at least engaged or married before spitting out a sprog.
You're old fashioned
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
China enforced the one-child policy which resulted in baby girls being abandoned to orphanages, as rural Chinese preferred boys to work for the family.
They also got fined if a second baby was born, which resulted in rich people having two children, whilst poor people were made poorer by the fine.
They also got fined if a second baby was born, which resulted in rich people having two children, whilst poor people were made poorer by the fine.
Superstore training teaches them to avoid eye contact & customers & to have a 6th sense that when someone needs some help to disappear into the depths of another department
Not Andy Naylor
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If you look at it dispassionately, the problem with the number of humans is their very humanity. We give to charities to help alleviate famines, we send aid to victims of natural disasters and we take in refugees from armed conflicts. If we acted with cold logic, we would let all these people get on with it and accept it all as a natural thinning out of the world population.
I was looking for the poll option brown babies bad, wrinkly old white folk?, shut up we were here first.
Most experts expect world population to peak sometime in the next 35-100 years. There is already a steep decline in the number of fertile females and some are suggesting that there will never be more infants on the planet than there are today.
Most experts expect world population to peak sometime in the next 35-100 years. There is already a steep decline in the number of fertile females and some are suggesting that there will never be more infants on the planet than there are today.
DumLum
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Yes.
Britain could soon become like China did and call me old fashioned but I think you should be at least engaged or married before spitting out a sprog.
Old Fashioned!
I'm not engaged or married. Can't afford it. Been together 12 years is it okay to have kids yet?
DumLum
Well-known member
Yes.
Britain could soon become like China did and call me old fashioned but I think you should be at least engaged or married before spitting out a sprog.
Old Fashioned!
I'm not engaged or married. Can't afford it. Been together 12 years is it okay to have kids yet?