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Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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Look, I wasn't trying to suggest that Wilkins was crap, far from it, only that I'm not prepared to label him the Greatest Youth Coach Ever, as some seem to suggest. The players that did come through the youth team- and yes, there were a few- are mostly average League One or Two players, nothing special. Most clubs at this level have a few youth team products in their first team: it's the way life works in the lower divisions and reflects the financial status of the clubs more than the brilliance of the coaching systems. The fact is that historically the Albion have been pretty shit at bringing through their own players and Wilkins, for my money, brought them up to the standard of most other clubs, no more, no less.

For my money, he always seemed to struggle to impose himself on the older players, finding it a lot easier to deal with the players he'd known through his youth team coaching days. He came across as a little over sensitive at times too: at one stage he resigned before a home game didn't he, can't remember why, but he was persuaded to stay for whatever reason.

As a player, he was one of the most frustrating I can remember- clearly had great passing ability, but tackled like a six year old girl, hence the long-sticking nickname Wendy. Barry Lloyd had a reputation for never, ever subbing him, no matter how ineffective he was in a particular game. So yes, he had his moments, but if it weren't for that (AWESOME) free kick against Ipswich, he would hardly be remembered as an Albion legend. IMHO of course.
 




The French Mistress

New member
Jun 24, 2007
1,279
You're very down on League 1, as if its no better than an amateur county league. Is the premier league awash with players developed in L1/2 youth systems?

Anyway, once these players graduated into the first team it became the manager's job to progress them further. So blame them instead if you must.

Quite the contrary, I love L1, let's just agree to disagree on the standards of players produced.
 


Bish Bosh

Active member
Aug 10, 2005
524
Wish it was in the EU
Look, I wasn't trying to suggest that Wilkins was crap, far from it, only that I'm not prepared to label him the Greatest Youth Coach Ever, as some seem to suggest. The players that did come through the youth team- and yes, there were a few- are mostly average League One or Two players, nothing special. Most clubs at this level have a few youth team products in their first team: it's the way life works in the lower divisions and reflects the financial status of the clubs more than the brilliance of the coaching systems. The fact is that historically the Albion have been pretty shit at bringing through their own players and Wilkins, for my money, brought them up to the standard of most other clubs, no more, no less.

For my money, he always seemed to struggle to impose himself on the older players, finding it a lot easier to deal with the players he'd known through his youth team coaching days. He came across as a little over sensitive at times too: at one stage he resigned before a home game didn't he, can't remember why, but he was persuaded to stay for whatever reason.

As a player, he was one of the most frustrating I can remember- clearly had great passing ability, but tackled like a six year old girl, hence the long-sticking nickname Wendy. Barry Lloyd had a reputation for never, ever subbing him, no matter how ineffective he was in a particular game. So yes, he had his moments, but if it weren't for that (AWESOME) free kick against Ipswich, he would hardly be remembered as an Albion legend. IMHO of course.

Agree. Add to that, just about the worst header of a ball I've seen. Couldn't be classed as a short player either, so not sure what was wrong in that department.

Hope he has a good coaching career ahead of him though.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
He produced players who at one stage filled a large number of 1st team places and got them to 7th in League 1. Job well done imo, why all the sly digs?

If you look at the team that finished 7th that season, the starting XI was usually something like:

Kuipers; Whing, Elphick, Lynch, Richards, Cox, Thomson, Racon, Westlake; Forster , Murray.

The paradox of that season was that with ten games to go we were a point off the play-offs with games in hand, yet playing to crowds of 4,000.
 


severnside gull

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May 16, 2007
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By the seaside in West Somerset
If you look at the team that finished 7th that season, the starting XI was usually something like:

Kuipers; Whing, Elphick, Lynch, Richards, Cox, Thomson, Racon, Westlake; Forster , Murray.

The paradox of that season was that with ten games to go we were a point off the play-offs with games in hand, yet playing to crowds of 4,000.

3 youth products
 




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