Anjem Choudary

[symyjym]

From what I can gather the Ahmadiyya are genuine peace loving Muslims and as such the Sunni are compelled to kill them .

ttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2016/jul/07/the-persecution-of-the-ahmadis-must-not-be-allowed-to-spread

Yep. I'm not worried about the 10% of Muslims which includes the Ahmadiyya and Shia. It's the 90% Sunni that can jump around to Wahhabi and Salsfi or who are just sypmathetic to as a Sunni.

 

[Baldseagull]

That's the Ahmadiyya Muslims Sunni's call them Kafir and their founder, Indian born Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who believed that he was Jesus returned. They total 4 million in number. If that is what you base your opinion on what Islam is then it is flawed.

Tell me about King John and Edward the II? And why do you think they can be compared with a prophet from God who is the greatest role model for the rest of mankind.

I have never prayed or worshipped any historical royalty and they only represent a figure and a story from the past, not God. Don't you understand the difference?

I am not basing what I think Islam is on anything, I am basing whether I think Mohammed was a paedophile, or not, on what I have read from various sources, I linked to one such source.
Don't you understand the difference?

 

[symyjym]

I am not basing what I think Islam is on anything, I am basing whether I think Mohammed was a paedophile, or not, on what I have read from various sources, I linked to one such source.
Don't you understand the difference?

You chose a link to the smallest sect of Islam who are considered Kafir by the majority.

Learn something from an ex Muslim, including all the usual weak apologetics:

https://youtu.be/ElM597LzxB8

 

[looney]

AlJazeera reported yesterday that 1,500 ISIS have returned to Europe with the order to terrorise. So if we add these freed terrorist and Anjem Choudary into the mix we could be in for an explosion of atrocities. This number doesn't include the many who will feed, house, and hide them or just turn a blind eye.

And when you get memes like this were it expresses the government as malevolent things could go downhill fast.

 

[The Clamp]

UK: Over 40 Per Cent of Terrorists Jailed in Past Decade Will Be Back on the Streets by End of 2018

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...tremists-jailed-decade-back-streets-end-2018/

Its like the Governments complicit in doing us harm, how long can this crap go on?

"but the true figure could be much higher, as it the typical British prison sentence paroles criminals automatically once half the sentence has been served"

No it doesn't.

And their written English is terrible.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This is exactly what Muslim apologists try to throw in. Firstly: If he had sex with her then yes but the marriage was never consumated. Secondly: We do not woirship Richard II or claim that God spoke to him and he is the perfect role model for the rest of mankind and we should emuilate him.

If Richard II was a pedophile though was the question trying to justify Muhammad's relationship with Aisha?

I think you miss the point. Jesus, FFS, 'walked on water'. You could do that, back then. And 'marry' a child. I am baffled by anyone getting worked up about a religion, whether they be practitioners (fools) or opponents. I have some time for athiests who criticise Islam (plenty of time) but none at all for Christians. There is no god.

 

[Baldseagull]

You chose a link to the smallest sect of Islam who are considered Kafir by the majority.

Learn something from an ex Muslim, including all the usual weak apologetics:

https://youtu.be/ElM597LzxB8

For ****s sake mate, if you are so convinced by the hadiths, why are you not a ****ing Muslim?
It is not a certainty that she was 9, but also, that even if she were, at the time no one saw it as an issue, she was already engaged to be married to someone else by all accounts, it seems she was thought ready to marry by her parents.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Cracking thread, this

 

[knocky1]

And when you get memes like this were it expresses the government as malevolent things could go downhill fast.

Makes a change from a video showing an ex Muslim saying how great Timmy Robinson is.
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[Baldseagull]

And when you get memes like this were it expresses the government as malevolent things could go downhill fast.

The text suggests something I can't verify, where did you get those images from?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Makes a change from a video showing an ex Muslim saying how great Timmy Robinson is.
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You must be very bored to come back to this thread again.

I am fed up now with all the pusyfooting. It is like a 1950s tea dance. The question I'd like to pose is this.

Should we kill all the muslims? After all, if we don't kill them all then they will kill 'us' all. Surely?

 

[symyjym]

I think you miss the point. Jesus, FFS, 'walked on water'. You could do that, back then. And 'marry' a child. I am baffled by anyone getting worked up about a religion, whether they be practitioners (fools) or opponents. I have some time for athiests who criticise Islam (plenty of time) but none at all for Christians. There is no god.

No, you miss the point. A religion that can justify pedophilia can also justify beheading apostates, gays and non Muslims which is instructed from Allah. Aisha is just a very good example of a low benchmark set for morality for the rest of mankind by God.

The All knowing, All loving Allah was the one that gifted Aisha to Muhammad so if God says it's ok, then it's ok forever, and we cannot use the excuse that it was different back then when endorsed by God in his last message..

 

[knocky1]

You must be very bored to come back to this thread again.

I am fed up now with all the pusyfooting. It is like a 1950s tea dance. The question I'd like to pose is this.

Should we kill all the muslims? After all, if we don't kill them all then they will kill 'us' all. Surely?

Reading on here the stuff from guys who seem to be very knowledgable about everything Islamic that does seem to be the answer. Some of them have even boasted that they have been to Luton. That's impressive.

 

[symyjym]

For ****s sake mate, if you are so convinced by the hadiths, why are you not a ****ing Muslim?
It is not a certainty that she was 9, but also, that even if she were, at the time no one saw it as an issue, she was already engaged to be married to someone else by all accounts, it seems she was thought ready to marry by her parents.

You are a waste of time. I have already told you that Muhammad was disliked and kicked out of Mecca and you are still claiming that no one had an issue with him . You have no understanding of the story so don't waste my time.

 

[knocky1]

No, you miss the point. A religion that can justify pedophilia can also justify beheading apostates, gays and non Muslims which is instructed from Allah. Aisha is just a very good example of a low benchmark set for morality for the rest of mankind by God.

The All knowing, All loving Allah was the one that gifted Aisha to Muhammad so if God says it's ok, then it's ok forever, and we cannot use the excuse that it was different back then when endorsed by God in his last message..

Kill the paedophile b*******. Got any videos.

 

[carlzeiss]

You must be very bored to come back to this thread again.

I am fed up now with all the pusyfooting. It is like a 1950s tea dance. The question I'd like to pose is this.

Should we kill all the muslims? After all, if we don't kill them all then they will kill 'us' all. Surely?

The way I see it is that we are constantly being informed that Islam is a wonderful religion . See Cameron , Blair ,Piers Morgan etc etc . Perhaps they are right , I am open to persuasion .

But it seems that Muslims here are unable to carry out some aspects of their religion that conflict with the laws of the UK . Therefor a percentage of UK resident muslims will always have grievances that may well manifest into violence .
As there doesn't seem to be any appetite for debate regarding flexibility of laws to accommodate the changing demographic then sooner or later the country is going to have to be partitioned into Islamic areas with Sharia law ( whatever that entails ) and non Islamic areas ( where Muslims could also live as long as they adhere to UK law .)

 

[symyjym]

You must be very bored to come back to this thread again.

I am fed up now with all the pusyfooting. It is like a 1950s tea dance. The question I'd like to pose is this.

Should we kill all the muslims? After all, if we don't kill them all then they will kill 'us' all. Surely?

Jeez, who is suggesting we kill all Muslims. That is the narrative you wish to project on people who are critical of Islam? That's a very childish understanding of the topic.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Jeez, who is suggesting we kill all Muslims. That is the narrative you wish to project on people who are critical of Islam? That's a very childish understanding of the topic.

Well, if we don't kill all the muslims, what do you sugest? Or is this merely a theoreticl discourse? If I thought that muslims were 'the end of my civilisation if not stopped' (I don't think that; it is a religion - religion is for the weak minded) then I would have to consider killing them all. Surely? I await your solution (since you seem to care about this) avidly.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The way I see it is that we are constantly being informed that Islam is a wonderful religion .

Are 'we'? I'm not. I don't read or listen to anything telling me any religion is wonderful. They are all bollocks. May as well 'listen' to the ads telling you that you may win the lottery.

I just don't get all this anguish.

OK I can see some folk on here want a war with Islam - so go have one - burn down a mosque. Rip off some lass' headscarf (like what happened to one of my students recently). That will change the world FFS. Get arrested. Go to jail. Get a prison tattoo. Become...a muslim.

I'm getting a bit [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] now. Too exasperated to even bother with spellchick.

 

[looney]

The text suggests something I can't verify, where did you get those images from?

I didn't make the meme, I recognise a few of them as swedish.