American football question

[Dan Aitch]

In your opinion, does this sequence of photos show the quarterback legitimately fumbling the ball, or a facemask penalty... and if the defense recovered the fumble, whose ball should it be on the next down?

 

[Titanic]

Surely that is a facemask penalty... but I guess you are going to say it was given otherwise?

 

[shaolinpunk]

I'd say that's a penalty against the defence and as such what happens to the ball after the fumble is irrelevant

Then again, I'm not an expert and I'm probably wrong

 

[Brighton TID]

Don't want to be negative but American football is horse shite

 

[The_Viper]

I'd say that's a penalty against the defence and as such what happens to the ball after the fumble is irrelevant

Then again, I'm not an expert and I'm probably wrong

This.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Face mask, auto first down

 

[Bladders]

Facemask, 15 yard penalty and an automatic 1st down .

 

[Bladders]

Don't want to be negative but American football is horse shite

There's a lot to take in in understanding the game ,

...too much for some

 

[shaolinpunk]

Don't want to be negative but American football is horse shite

Ah, the classic "I'm not being [...] but [...]"

 

[Brighton TID]

Ah, the classic "I'm not being [...] but [...]"

I'm not being funny, but why don't you pisss off.

 

[Stat Brother]

As said by Bladders.

Facemask pretty much overrules all calls when there's doubt, there's no doubt on this one.

The defensive players first move is to the FM.
Without it the QB would seem to be throwing forward at the point of the fumble, therefore the ball is live and in play.

But as said all irrelevant as everybody is going 15 yards up field.

Oh and 'WHY'?

Even for NSC this seems a little random.

 

[Brighton TID]

There's a lot to take in in understanding the game ,

...too much for some

Yes, of course. Why do they all wear stupid helmets?

 

[Beach Hut]

Face mask penalty

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

As said by Bladders.

Facemask pretty much overrules all calls when there's doubt, there's no doubt on this one.

The defensive players first move is to the FM.
Without it the QB would seem to be throwing forward at the point of the fumble, therefore the ball is live and in play.

But as said all irrelevant as everybody is going 15 yards up field.

Yep, what he said.

So what was the outcome?

 

[Dan Aitch]

Apologies for the sh1te nature of this photo - I've only got the original on my laptop so I dragged this off my Photobox gallery.



The QB looks suitably miffed based on the call of a fumble and turnover. I'm not sure anyone watching saw anything except a flagrant facemask... except for the assembled refereeing crew. Poor really.

 

[vegster]

TBH that is a crap tackle by the LB, he seems to have plenty of time to get to the QB and as such, he should have wrapped him and sacked him for the loss of yardage. Or, did the QB step up out of the pocket and wrong foot the LB as he went for a QB sneak ? if so, it's a reaction rather than a bad challenge and maybe they should have replayed the play with no loss of down.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Yep clear facemask as finger go inside. That over-rules the whole was the arm going forward issue for a fumble

 

[willyfantastic]

Don't want to be negative but American football is horse shite

thanks for bringing your much-needed opinion in here