All these people who are too old/injured to stand up at games....

[the full harris]

What did they used to do when most of the ground was terracing? Did they sit in the seated areas, not go at all or just stand on the terraces and not WHINE about having to stand for the whole game?

Liz used to stand on the south west terrace cheerfully enough.

 

[Wardy]

What did they used to do when most of the ground was terracing? Did they sit in the seated areas, not go at all or just stand on the terraces and not WHINE about having to stand for the whole game?

Liz used to stand on the south west terrace cheerfully enough.

What he said

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Re: Re: All these people who are too old/injured to stand up at games....

What he said

What he said.

 

[dougdeep]

What he say?

 

[Wardy]

What he say?

Not sure im too old to read it, the print is too small.

 

[Hungry Joe]

My Dad's 74 and got two gammy legs. He gets annoyed from time to time as he can't get up quickly and misses some of the action. I can understand his frustration. He used to be a North Stand regular right up to the end of the Goldstone and terrace surfed with the best of them. We still tell him to shut up though on the odd occassion he does moan.

 

[Safeway]

FACT.

 

[Wardy]

We so need to get back to Terracing. If it was regulated right it would not be a problem. Then those of us that want to stand can, and those of us that for what ever reason dont want to or cannot stand can sit in the knowledge that they will not have someone in front of them standing all game.

 

[dougdeep]

We so need to get back to Terracing. If it was regulated right it would not be a problem. Then those of us that want to stand can, and those of us that for what ever reason dont want to or cannot stand can sit in the knowledge that they will not have someone in front of them standing all game.

There you go, talking sense again.

 

[Wardy]

There you go, talking sense again.

Sorry will try not to do it again.

 

[bhaexpress]

Frankly, if the FA ever get's it's metaphoricl head out of it's rectum then we'd see a return to partial terracing as many fans want that. (It would also increase ground capacity at many grounds).

However, if it's matter of seating were you are compelled to use your assigned seat it is a pain for some people who aren't as mobile to keep jumping up and down. It's clear that the posters here who've complained about such people have never sampled the delights of such ailments as rheumatism or arthritis.

On the other hand if it's like say, Ashton Gate where the stewards don't get stroppy and let you sit where you like I would agree that there's no need to complain about standing. Withdean on the other hand is a different matter.

 

[Wardy]

Frankly, if the FA ever get's it's metaphoricl head out of it's rectum then we'd see a return to partial terracing as many fans want that. (It would also increase ground capacity at many grounds).

However, if it's matter of seating were you are compelled to use your assigned seat it is a pain for some people who aren't as mobile to keep jumping up and down. It's clear that the posters here who've complained about such people have never sampled the delights of such ailments as rheumatism or arthritis.

On the other hand if it's like say, Ashton Gate where the stewards don't get stroppy and let you sit where you like I would agree that there's no need to complain about standing. Withdean on the other hand is a different matter.

I agree and have said on other posts that if I am somewhere where you have to sit in your assigned seat, and the people behind me are unable to stand, then I will grudging sit for them. It would be so easy though to have a terraced part at grounds. It is what the fans want, and would increase revenue for the clubs.

All you would need to do is have a maximum capacity on it and ensure that there was sufficant room to allow for the natural moving around that happens. If the FA had not reacted on the spare of the moment the following Hillsborough they would have seen that the best was forward was not to end terracing, but regulate it better.

 

[Braders]

We so need to get back to Terracing. If it was regulated right it would not be a problem. Then those of us that want to stand can, and those of us that for what ever reason dont want to or cannot stand can sit in the knowledge that they will not have someone in front of them standing all game.

totally 100% agree

 

[bhaexpress]

The FA's reaction to Hillsbrough was very much a knee jerk reaction IMHO (sorry Twatty). The causes of the disaster were a combination of factors not the least being those ridiculous fenches. I remember us having to fench the Goldstone after a match against Tottenham in 1977 when their fans tried to get the match abandoned by being responsible for three pitich invaisions. Poor stewarding and Policing were also contributary as were the fans who satyed in the pub for as long as possible and cause the jams outside of Leppings Lane.

Fact of the matter was that many of the people who spilled onto the pitch were Brighton fans forced there by the Spurs scum element pushing the crowd from behind (something I sampled two seasons later at Shite Fart Lane when I was crushed against a barrier by the same tactic.

It wasn't the terracing that utimately caused the fatalities as much as those fenches which didn't allow people to flow over the wall.

We've had terracing in this country for over a 100 years but Hillsbourgh was the only time I can think of when terracing had any involment with deaths at a football match.

 

[trueblue]

On terracing people could stand wherever they wanted, so kids etc could go closer to
the front.

Standing up when it's allocated seats is just plain ignorant if there are people behind either too old or too young to see. Personally, I'd have gladly seen the mouthy inconsiderate idiots who were winding up the old boy at Wolves get chucked out.

Doesn't bother me standing up, but others have a right to see the game too.

 

[Wardy]

The FA's reaction to Hillsbrough was very much a knee jerk reaction IMHO (sorry Twatty). The causes of the disaster were a combination of factors not the least being those ridiculous fenches. I remember us having to fench the Goldstone after a match against Tottenham in 1977 when their fans tried to get the match abandoned by being responsible for three pitich invaisions. Poor stewarding and Policing were also contributary as were the fans who satyed in the pub for as long as possible and cause the jams outside of Leppings Lane.

Fact of the matter was that many of the people who spilled onto the pitch were Brighton fans forced there by the Spurs scum element pushing the crowd from behind (something I sampled two seasons later at Shite Fart Lane when I was crushed against a barrier by the same tactic.

It wasn't the terracing that utimately caused the fatalities as much as those fenches which didn't allow people to flow over the wall.

We've had terracing in this country for over a 100 years but Hillsbourgh was the only time I can think of when terracing had any involment with deaths at a football match.

That is my point, if they were to say have a section that was passed to hold say 500 people. If they then only sell 500 tickets, then had the same kind of steward system that they have now, it would not be a problem. By banning terracing the FA removed one of the factors but the real problem was the way that the game and the crowed control both inside and outside was orgainised.

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

We so need to get back to Terracing. If it was regulated right it would not be a problem. Then those of us that want to stand can, and those of us that for what ever reason dont want to or cannot stand can sit in the knowledge that they will not have someone in front of them standing all game.

Agree completely. A sensible approach to re-introducing terracing would eradicate these problems, and improve the atmosphere that seems to be vanishing, especially from home crowds.

 

[Hungry Joe]

It's clear that the posters here who've complained about such people have never sampled the delights of such ailments as rheumatism or arthritis.

Spot on. As with my Dad, standing up for prolonged periods is not the problem, it's getting up and down quickly that is both very difficult and very painful for him. He's had one knee replacement op and the other one's on it's way out. If someone can't see how that could cause someone else in that position to get frustrated and complain from time to time 'cos they are missing the best of the action then they have a complete lack of empathy for their fellow supporters.

Like I said before, my Dad rarely moans and when he does we remind him that he's at a football match, but I can fully understand why he gets pissed off with it.

 

[bhaexpress]

Spot on. As with my Dad, standing up for prolonged periods is not the problem, it's getting up and down quickly that is both very difficult and very painful for him. He's had one knee replacement op and the other one's on it's way out. If someone can't see how that could cause someone else in that position to get frustrated and complain from time to time 'cos they are missing the best of the action then they have a complete lack of empathy for their fellow supporters.

Like I said before, my Dad rarely moans and when he does we remind him that he's at a football match, but I can fully understand why he gets pissed off with it.

I have to admit that I am rapidly getting to that state myself.

 

[Seagull Stew]

A system whereby people who want or need to sit down can ask for seats at the front (maybe the first four rows) of the stands would be an idea.
Of course, as things stand, this could not be implemented because it is clearly stated that standing is not allowed anywhere so by having this system it would give free licence for anyone further back to stand.