[News] Alabama carries out first nitrogen gas execution

[peterward]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68085513

Not good

I dont agree with execution, its abhorrent. But in a first world country, where that is their law, why the hell not a firing squad and straight at the head. Why these "Saw" film type executions. Do they get a kick out of this?

Its sick

 

[US Seagull]

I'm afraid I'm not
Of course it's not a deterrent
You seem to be clutching at straws here
Let's be clear
If you can't do the time,don't do the crime

Jesus Christ, you literally just did it again.

If you can't do the time,don't do the crime

So in other words, the punishment should deter you from doing the crime.

I don't understand why you can't grasp this?

 

[kojak]

Jesus Christ, you literally just did it again.


So in other words, the punishment should deter you from doing the crime.

I don't understand why you can't grasp this?

Carry on talking to yourself
I'm off to watch the football

 

[drew]

Had you thought that your comment could also be dumb? Whilst murders continue to happen of course, how do you know how many people considering murder might just have been put off by the thought of capital punishment? So it is hardly a fact, as it cannot be proven.

Yet in America where they have the death penalty, out of the G7 countries they have by far and away the worst rate of murders! You can't read the mind of every individual, so you only draw conclusions/opinion from the statistics. So, no I don't think my comment was dumb.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I'm afraid I'm not
Of course it's not a deterrent
You seem to be clutching at straws here
Let's be clear
If you can't do the time,don't do the crime

And that's not claiming it's a deterrent

Here's a couple of very simple facts.

The death penalty does not deter people from killing.
If you have the Death Penalty you will kill innocent people.

If your blood lust overrides those two facts then fine. But at least have the balls to admit you're overriding belief is an eye for an eye. Because that's always worked well

Carry on talking to yourself
I'm off to watch the football

I would do the same as you after your last few posts. After all, you wouldn't want to appear stupid

 

[drew]

Nobody said it's a deterrent
Justice is served
That's all

Really? Since 1973 196 people executed were subsequently exonerated. Still, what's wrong with a bit of collateral damage.

 

[dangull]

No execution is pleasant it’s not meant to be , but that is what the Americans want ,
if they are going to execute someone , don’t know why they just don5 use a firing squad, it’s quick and efficient

Saddam Hussain wanted to be executed by firing squad rather than hanging. I guess because it looks more military than criminal. Probably less humiliating when having an audience involved.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Maybe a system where the guilty party is rolled out, then either the family or a trained pro does 'the deed' in the same manner that the perpetrator did originally.
Just a suggestion.

 

[chip]

I wonder who thought this was such a good idea and persuaded the state to give it a try. Fentanyl would surely have been better.

 

[Questions]

We need a poll.
Madame Guillotine for me.
You can do a ‘where will the head finish up’ type game like Bradley Walsh compares.

 

[A1X]

Why is revenge not allowed? Eye for an eye and all that. Lots of people want that and couldn’t care less about deterrent argument.

Because most people have a mental age greater than the average toddler

 

[Motogull]

The death penalty has no place in a civilised society

Yeah, the US are in pretty poor company in this regard.

 

[brighton_dave]

I don't know too much about the case, but given the choice, I'd rather this than a killer being released like here in the UK. Lee Rigby's killers, a 2 year olds dad slautered. Lucy Letby taking the lifes of babies, ruining lifes of families. The suicides where families can't cope with loss. But hey let's protect the rights of these people.
In my opinion, if you take a life, you must be punished for it, not able to sit in a cell with a tv, hot water & having a chance of release for being well behaved!
That's all more extreme than what is being debated here.
You could look at it on a case by case basis, but my goodness, human rights go way too far in such cases.
If anything happened to my family and I get to them before the justice system does, they'd wish they'd have gone by being gassed.
Just think of all the extra money we would have to help those in need, the people who deserve to be treated fairly, that is where we should be talking about human rights.

 

[drew]

I don't know too much about the case, but given the choice, I'd rather this than a killer being released like here in the UK. Lee Rigby's killers, a 2 year olds dad slautered. Lucy Letby taking the lifes of babies, ruining lifes of families. The suicides where families can't cope with loss. But hey let's protect the rights of these people.
In my opinion, if you take a life, you must be punished for it, not able to sit in a cell with a tv, hot water & having a chance of release for being well behaved!
That's all more extreme than what is being debated here.
You could look at it on a case by case basis, but goodness human rights go way too far in such cases.
If anything happened to my family and I get to them before the justice system does, they'd wish they'd have gone by being gassed.
Just think of all the extra money we would have to help those in need, the people who deserve to be treated fairly.

And after all that you ignore the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. Guildford four, Birmingham six, etc etc.

What if a member of you family was falsely convicted of murder and executed?

 

[brighton_dave]

And after all that you ignore the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. Guildford four, Birmingham six, etc etc.

What if a member of you family was falsely convicted of murder and executed?

I referenced case by case. There are such cases where it is cut and dry, Lee Rigby'a killer being a prime example. Is it right to let them live? Not in my view, take my taxes and use them for a good purpose, not to house an animal.

 

[Is it PotG?]

And after all that you ignore the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. Guildford four, Birmingham six, etc etc.

What if a member of you family was falsely convicted of murder and executed?

Did matey deny his culpability before he died?

 

[WATFORD zero]

I referenced case by case. There are such cases where it is cut and dry, Lee Rigby'a killer being a prime example. Is it right to let them live? Not in my view, take my taxes and use them for a good purpose, not to house an animal.

I only posted this a page ago but you obviously didn't read that far back or remember, so here are cases where it is 'cut and dried'

 

[WATFORD zero]

Did matey deny his culpability before he died?

Yes you've made it clear that you want 'an eye for an eye' and people killed.

Because you've made it blindingly obvious that you have nothing to say about the simple facts that it is not a deterrent and innocent people will be killed

 

[peterward]

I referenced case by case. There are such cases where it is cut and dry, Lee Rigby'a killer being a prime example. Is it right to let them live? Not in my view, take my taxes and use them for a good purpose, not to house an animal.

You illegally commited murder.

So we're going to legally commit murder?

You of sick mind shot someone with a gun 34 years ago.

So we of sound mind will use Nitrogen gas and asphyxiate you over 25 minutes, 34 years later.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Yes you've made it clear that you want 'an eye for an eye' and people killed.

Because you've made it obvious that you have nothing to say on the simple facts that it is not a deterrent and innocent people will be killed

Just to clarify your position, is it against capital punishment per se or concerns over possible miscarriages of justice?