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[Albion] After 11 games - Albion's Premier League campaigns ranked



Bozza

Bozza

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Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
57,230
Back in Sussex
Scoring for fun, conceding for fun?

Position
2017-18, 2019-20 8th
2018-19 12th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18, 2019-20 15
2018-19 14
2020-21 10

Tracker
2017-18 - +5
2018-19 - +2
2019-20 - 0
2020-21 - -3

Goal Difference
2017-18, 2019-20 0
2020-21 -3
2018-19 -4

Goals Scored
2020-21 15
2019-20 14
2018-19 12
2017-18 11

Goals Conceded
2017-18 11
2019-20 14
2018-19 16
2020-21 18
 






jackalbion

jackalbion

Well-known member
Aug 30, 2011
4,894
Bozza said:
Scoring for fun, conceding for fun?

Position
2017-18, 2019-20 8th
2018-19 12th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18, 2019-20 15
2018-19 14
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18, 2019-20 0
2020-21 -3
2018-19 -4

Goals Scored
2020-21 15
2019-20 14
2018-19 12
2017-18 11

Goals Conceded
2017-18 11
2019-20 14
2018-19 16
2020-21 18
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I am just starting an agenda here, but Zonal Marking is the difference if we defended set plays man to man as under Hughton we’d be top 6. Overheard someone on well in the queue for the train tonight say we have always in the premier league been far better first half of the season. Hopefully it’s a swap this time, because if it’s not we might be slightly doomed.
 




Wellesley

Wellesley

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2013
4,973
I'm starting to worry for the first time this season that we are in trouble. We are a very good team and Bissouma is glorious but the Premier League is brutal. I think if we had a new keeper, similar to Pope and a more clinical striker to partner Welbeck, we'd be top ten.
 




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Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
Wellesley said:
I'm starting to worry for the first time this season that we are in trouble. We are a very good team and Bissouma is glorious but the Premier League is brutal. I think if we had a new keeper, similar to Pope and a more clinical striker to partner Welbeck, we'd be top ten.
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We have scored in every PL game bar home to Burnley. Goals scored is not the main issue. It is defending, particularly set pieces ( must be in double figures now ) We do not have strong dominant CB's. Dunk has lost his focus and is running around like a headless chicken. White and Webster aren't strong enough in the air....oh...sorry....forgot.....thats not why they are in the side. Its for their ball carrying abilities out of defence. We have a small keeper and a midget at RB.
Hughton built the team around a strong fortress at the back...Dunk, Duffy, Murray, Stephens, Hemed etc. Teams found it difficult to score set pieces against us and we were more dangerous ourselves at the other end of the field. Now we are incapable of keeping clean sheets.
 


Steve Foster

Steve Foster

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2008
9,803
Formerly the nice bit in Hove, now Caroline Lucas
It’s a results business & with all that money in the top flight - could BHA ‘afford’ to drop down to the Championship?

Not strengthening up front, relying on Connolly as a centre forward is not going to keep you up.
Sloppiness at the back too.
Difficult times. Who knows we could go to Leicester & nab a win?
 


Clive Walker

Clive Walker

Stand Or Fall
Jul 5, 2011
3,588
Brighton
Stats don’t lie. We are not progressing the way some people think we are.

Nice but ineffective performances don’t get you any bonus points.
 




neilbard

neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,280
Bozza said:
Scoring for fun, conceding for fun?

Position
2017-18, 2019-20 8th
2018-19 12th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18, 2019-20 15
2018-19 14
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18, 2019-20 0
2020-21 -3
2018-19 -4

Goals Scored
2020-21 15
2019-20 14
2018-19 12
2017-18 11

Goals Conceded
2017-18 11
2019-20 14
2018-19 16
2020-21 18
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You can chuck around all this statistical shite until the cows come home, points are all that count. :shrug:
 








southstandandy

southstandandy

WEST STAND ANDY
Jul 9, 2003
6,042
At our current points rate we should be able to get to 34 points this season which I reckon will keep us up. Still 3 worse teams than us IMO. Sure, it's going to be close but I'm positive we can stay up.
 


Sarisbury Seagull

Sarisbury Seagull

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NSC Patron
Nov 22, 2007
14,996
Sarisbury Green, Southampton
jackalbion said:
I am just starting an agenda here, but Zonal Marking is the difference if we defended set plays man to man as under Hughton we’d be top 6. Overheard someone on well in the queue for the train tonight say we have always in the premier league been far better first half of the season. Hopefully it’s a swap this time, because if it’s not we might be slightly doomed.
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But we weren’t very good at defending set pieces in the Premier League under Hughton either, everyone forgets that because it doesn’t suit their agenda.

Ryan and Dunk are the common denominators and maybe should be looked at more than the system or manager.
 


zefarelly

zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,772
Sussex, by the sea
Zonal defending is for high quality clever players . . . . ours are not on the same level as the players they're defending against.

our pipsqeak strikers are not quite weapons grade either.

I think we're better than we've ever been but the bar keeps going up. We are not clinical, we're too nice and keep getting punished

VAR not helping either.
 










R

Reddleman

Well-known member
May 17, 2017
2,170
Bozza said:
Scoring for fun, conceding for fun?

Position
2017-18, 2019-20 8th
2018-19 12th
2020-21 16th

Points
2017-18, 2019-20 15
2018-19 14
2020-21 10

Goal Difference
2017-18, 2019-20 0
2020-21 -3
2018-19 -4

Goals Scored
2020-21 15
2019-20 14
2018-19 12
2017-18 11

Goals Conceded
2017-18 11
2019-20 14
2018-19 16
2020-21 18
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The points total on its own isn’t that helpful without knowing who we have played in those first 11 games. What would be more useful is to see how many points we have/had against the predicted tracker. That’s a better measure as it’s less reliant on the fixture list.
 






B

blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
If you look at our starting line ups from the last 4 years, the best team we've had in any season is this one. No question.

However, all the time PL teams are given £100's of millions a year in TV money, our opponents will be able to continually improve as well.

We've clearly improved. Our competitors have improved, it seems, a little bit more than us
 


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