Adam johnson sacked

[Stat Brother]

Yeah and I'm just saying his life should 't be over for it.

He should get his punishment yes, but if she's 15 and 10 months or 16 and 1 month it makes absolutely no difference if it wasn't for an arbitarary age politicians plucked out of the sky. If she was a couple months older would he still be being called a paedofile?

If that were to be the case then he should get double the sentence for being a feckin idiot.

 

[Easy 10]

Yeah and I'm just saying his life should 't be over for it.

He should get his punishment yes, but if she's 15 and 10 months or 16 and 1 month it makes absolutely no difference if it wasn't for an arbitarary age politicians plucked out of the sky. If she was a couple months older would he still be being called a paedofile?

His life isn't over for it. He's royally bollocksed up his career and destroyed his family, but his life isn't over.

Once he knew that girl was 15, he had a choice to make - either back off, or follow his cock. He made a conscious decision and chose the latter, and now he deserves everything he gets.

 

[Triggaaar]

And I'm not in anyway condoning sexual & child abuse. These are crimes that can inflict lasting trauma and damage to the victim but what I want people to talk openly and honestly about is why are we convicting people for something that is a natural human instinct?

It's a natural human instinct to kill in order to protect our group and provide food. Although that is a natural, we realise it's not good for society if we're all free to kill any time we feel our little group is in danger, so we made laws to stop people doing it. The same goes for procreation. We have natural instincts that we are wise enough to suppress for the good of society.

Why do people and in particular men, commit sex crimes?

Because they want to have sex and fail to empathise with the position of those who either don't want to or aren't in a position to give consent.

Why do we incriminate people who participate in prostitution?

Because we know that some people make money by forcing others into prostitution, and we want to protect vulnerable people.

If we can answer these questions responsibly than maybe we can get back to protecting solely the vulnerable people and not criminalising people who are just acting on the human instincts.

If there were no laws and we were all able to act on human instinct, vulnerable people would not be protected.

 

[perseus]

To stop the silly girls getting "knocked up" before they've finished school

Yeah and I'm just saying his life should 't be over for it.

He should get his punishment yes, but if she's 15 and 10 months or 16 and 1 month it makes absolutely no difference if it wasn't for an arbitarary age politicians plucked out of the sky. If she was a couple months older would he still be being called a paedofile?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

 

[Triggaaar]

If she was a couple months older would he still be being called a paedofile?

Yes, because it happened in January, and she wasn't 16 until November.

 

[Puppet Master]

He then wrote: “Ha, well I will be waiting patiently, lol”

Lol hun xxx

 

[Triggaaar]

He then wrote: “Ha, well I will be waiting patiently, lol”

And 5 minutes later he wrote 'Right, I've waited patiently'.


For the avoidance of doubt, the above is not true.

 

[Swillis]

Lol hun xxx

Appropriate, on a thread about weirdos.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Yeah and I'm just saying his life should 't be over for it.

He should get his punishment yes, but if she's 15 and 10 months or 16 and 1 month it makes absolutely no difference if it wasn't for an arbitarary age politicians plucked out of the sky. If she was a couple months older would he still be being called a paedofile?

Hasn't it been presented in court that she was only 1 month past her 15th B'Day when he started texting and arranging to meet? So by your logic the arbitrary age is no different than if she was 14 and 10 months or 15 and 1 month in this case.

 

[Triggaaar]

Hasn't it been presented in court that she was only 1 month past her 15th B'Day when he started texting and arranging to meet? So by your logic the arbitrary age is no different than if she was 14 and 10 months or 15 and 1 month in this case.

See post #105

 

[Bold Seagull]

See post #105

Year 10, not even in her final year at school. There really is no defending him even on the notion that our age laws are politically arbitrary.

The girl made a Facebook friend request to the footballer just before New Year 2015.
The jury was read an exchange of messages between the pair in which he arranged to meet her so he could sign a football shirt.
In them, the girl made it clear she was a Year 10 student and one month past her 15th birthday, saying everyone thought she looked older.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Should Sunderland be able to make a claim against Johnson for loss of value?

These clubs should start having clauses that if a player breaks the law in a particular instance of say sexual assault, then they are liable for the loss of value their misdemeanour causes the club.

Sunderland have ended up sacking a £12m asset, the right thing to do, but he's caused that loss from his own actions in breaking the law.

I realise there is no basis for this in law for this, but it is tough on Sunderland, or any football club that invested in a player who then goes on to break the law.

 

[surrey jim]

Lol hun xxx

Maybe he asked if she wanted to go for a curry?

 

[Simster]

Should Sunderland be able to make a claim against Johnson for loss of value?

These clubs should start having clauses that if a player breaks the law in a particular instance of say sexual assault, then they are liable for the loss of value their misdemeanour causes the club.

Sunderland have ended up sacking a £12m asset, the right thing to do, but he's caused that loss from his own actions in breaking the law.

I realise there is no basis for this in law for this, but it is tough on Sunderland, or any football club that invested in a player who then goes on to break the law.

Sunderland will have made that call because the commercial fallout from retaining him would have been catastrophic. At least nobody else (in this country) will touch him for exactly that reason.

I do wonder if there are firms out there who allow clubs to insure themselves against their players going to prison. You'd hope so. Not many players are wrong-uns in the grand scheme of things, but as you say they are commodities in their own right to the clubs.

 

[happypig]

And I'm not in anyway condoning sexual & child abuse. These are crimes that can inflict lasting trauma and damage to the victim but what I want people to talk openly and honestly about is why are we convicting people for something that is a natural human instinct?

Because most of us know that such a relationship, as well as being illegal, is abusive and, even if we are attracted to a much younger woman, there's an age below which society has decreed that a physical relationship isn't allowed.

 

[Puppet Master]

Maybe he asked if she wanted to go for a curry?

I'm presuming a Naan was off the menu

 

[DECK CHAIRS AT DAWN]

Shouldn't you be saying 'we' instead of 'they'?

Indeed

 

[Phat Baz 68]

Why pick out Palace as a choice of club.Are they known for recruiting sex cases.

Why Not ha ha !!

 

[Swillis]

Why Not ha ha !!

Nice to see you have you're IQ in your username, wish I would have thought of that.

 

[matthew]

Hasn't it been presented in court that she was only 1 month past her 15th B'Day when he started texting and arranging to meet? So by your logic the arbitrary age is no different than if she was 14 and 10 months or 15 and 1 month in this case.

Even that would be fine in Germany but it's a good point.