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What have the French ever done for us.....................kisses and letters are all I can think of.
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[Politics] About time we sent this on a goodwill visit to Jersey
- Thread starter Dave the OAP
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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yes.
- Jul 10, 2003
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I suspect the OP and one or two contributors since haven't been entirely serious about Britain and France sending Aircraft Carriers across the Channel
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Neither of which could fit in the river Seine at Le Havre! The whole thread is a mickey take.
The article says 98% of fishing licences have been given out so it’s probably a mix up with papers, exactly the same as the Jersey situation earlier this year, when that Bailiwick was slower than Guernsey in issuing their licences.
AmexRuislip
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That's just a ruse for you civvy folk.
The real reason this will go to Jersey, is to stock up HM Forces with duty free fags and booze
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I reckon Brexit would have been far less divisive if they'd sold it as a chance to go back to having a punch up with the French.
What have the French ever done for us.....................kisses and letters are all I can think of.
Brie god damn it, lovely creamy brie.
Stick yer Stilton right up yer arse.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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You do realise that both HMS Queen Elisabeth and Prince of Wales have a full compliment of planes and are fully operational?
They only didn't have planes while they were being built and undergoing SOME of the sea trials , they are also designed to have detachments of planes on board from land based squadrons
Butch Willykins
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Why do the French bother with the Blue and Red bits in their flag?
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
French and UK have very similar military might. Don't forget the French have 5 Rubis nuclear attack submarines and 1 Barracuda class, not to forget Charles de Gaulle the only non US nuclear aircraft carrier. My French cousins are confident as they do have a few more friends than us too.
dejavuatbtn
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jeux avec frontières.
Nice boat. Nice planes. How are you going to use them?
- Jul 10, 2003
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It seems to me a bit silly talking about sending aircraft carriers across the channel. Can't we just nuke them
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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I never said anything about sending it to the channel Islands to scare the French into letting the trawler go, or pass comment on whether we need them at all, I was just pointing out that they did in fact have planes on them as it has been said they didn't have any.
I know. It just appears to be a bit useless, but I was thinking maybe there is a plan how to use this boat and those nice airplanes?
Baldseagull
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Which one is in the picture?
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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they're worth more as a pair
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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HMS Queen Elizabeth. Both though are very similar, but there are ,I believe, a few differences if you know what to look out for.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
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well, I am sure there is a whole discussion to be had on the merits of having a military at all and conventional v nuclear, and the various merits of either.
If we are to have a military at all then I think it needs to be equipped properly and at a strength able to fulfil its role. The benefits of having a well prepared military have been demonstrated several times over the past 18 months- those Nightingale hospitals, temporary morgues and the mass vaccination plan and implementation were NOT of civilian design and build and tbh would have taken far far longer without the military
Whether the carriers are a sensible military option as opposed to spending the money on other hardware and personnel is something I am not qualified (and I expect virtually no one on this forum is, if any) to be able to say. Despite any temporary spats with France , the EU, or anyone else, there is undoubted value in NATO, and the UK Carrier Force is well placed to play our role in the joint defence, whilst giving us a strong independent military prescience of our own. The actual carriers are just part of the carrier strike groups which have trrop transports, hospital ships, various support vessles, destroyers etc. They are not meant to be seen as a single enmity, but as part of a much larger military strategy . Look up the UK Carrier Group on google!
As I say there is I am sure a massive argument can be made both for and against having a military, and what type of military that is, and what its role should be. .
The UK Military set up provides humanitarian relief around the world, (Haiti, Puerto Rico, Africa among plenty of others)protects shipping lanes from Pirates,Protects British interests abroad, provides assistance to the UK Civilian authorities in time of need, the list is endless
I for one an grateful we have a (still) sizeable military-but I am biased as I am ex military myself. Others will have differing views