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[LondonSeagull]

Well Mr.Titanic, you see the difference is....

These Israeli soldiers will now probably face up to 15years in prison for it and what about the Hezbullah fighters for using young children?? They couldnt give a toss

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Yeah, I can't trust anyone who won't join me for a Full Irish. Oddly enough, one of my best mates, who is Jewish, doesn't have a problem with it as long as his Mama doesn't know - but she's in Noo Yoik and he's in Dublin

yeah, my JEWISH flatmate has the odd sneaky sausage aswell

 

[Buba]

So, apparently, do the Israeli soldiers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6432133.stm

Perhaps you should be a little more even-handed in your observations.

Bullshit!

B´Tselem Accused of Deception in Annual Report

by Ezra HaLevi

(IsraelNN.com)
In its December 28 press release, B'Tselem announced the main findings of its generally anti-Israel annual report: “This past year, we witnessed a deterioration in the human rights situation in the Occupied Territories, particularly in the increase in civilians killed and the destruction of the houses and infrastructure in the Gaza Strip.”

The report itself does not classify those killed as civilians or terrorists, though. It chooses instead to classify Arab casualties as either “Killed when participating in hostilities” or “Did not participate in hostilities when killed.”

CAMERA (The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) contacted B’Tselem and was told by spokesperson Sarit Michaeli that this is indeed the group’s policy.

According to CAMERA, until 2002, B’Tselem actually did provide separate lists of those it classified as Palestinian civilians. “In 2003, B’Tselem’s loose definition of the term ‘civilian’ included countless Palestinians who were killed while they were in the process of attacking Israelis, including opening fire at a Bat Mitzvah celebration in Hadera, killing six and injuring 35; setting off bombs; infiltrating Israeli communities and killing or injuring residents; and fighting with Israeli troops,” the CAMERA report states. “B’Tselem has since abandoned that policy – perhaps in face of CAMERA’s criticism – but is the current practice any more credible?”

The media accuracy group reviewed the details of the two most recent months covered by the B’Tselem report. They found that not only were known wanted terrorists included in those supposedly uninvolved in hostilities, but that when conflicting reports existed as to an individual’s involvement, B’Tselem consistently assumed that he was not.

B’Tselem reported, for example, that Muhammad Mahmoud Rajab a-Jarjawi, 19, who was killed Nov. 23 in Beit Lahiya, “did not participate in hostilities when killed.” In fact, the report says he was “killed while on his way home from prayers, which ended at five in the morning.”

The Palestinian Ma’an News Agency (as supplied by BBC Worldwide Monitoring) reported that day, however: “Our Gaza correspondent reported that an Israeli reconnaissance plane launched a rocket at a group of armed Palestinian resistance men who were confronting the invading Israeli tanks east of Bayt Lahiya. One of the men, Muhammad Jarjawi, 19, was killed and many others were injured.”

The report includes armed terrorists in its “did not participate in hostilities” classification. One incident is described as follows (emphasis added): “Muhammad (Eid) Amin Mahmoud Ramaheh, 27-year-old resident of Ein Beit al-Maa Refugee Camp, Nablus district, killed on 14.12.2006 in Ein Beit al-Maa Refugee Camp, Nablus district, by gunfire. Did not participate in hostilities when killed. Additional information: Killed when shot at short range when he ran from his car when an undercover unit tried to arrest him. He was armed.”

The IDF report that day described the incident: “The forces set up a roadblock in order to stop Ramaheh, but when Ramaheh’s vehicle arrived it bypassed the roadblock and collided with another vehicle, injuring a number of civilians. As the forces approached Ramaheh’s vehicle, he and one of his men opened fire at them. The soldiers returned fire, killing the two, who had been armed with an M-16 and a handgun.”

Other information consistently left out of the B’Tselem report includes the membership in terrorist organizations of those killed. The IDF reported that Rahama was a head of Fatah’s Tanzim terror group and was involved in terror attacks and in attempted attacks in the Shechem region.

“B’Tselem can not be relied upon as a trusted source for figures on Palestinian civilian casualties,” the CAMERA report concludes. “Nor can the details it provides on the circumstances of death for Palestinian casualties be considered accurate.” Full article inside

 

[Cian]

Yeah, remember what we said about actually expressing your own views rather than pasting news stories?

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

stop.posting.newslinks.it.is.very.annoying.

 

[LondonSeagull]

Ostrich is also a kosher animal and Jews could eat it as well so im sure there are a few imports of it....

Pig is neither kosher nor halal so why on earth would they even import it??

And besides, i dont keep kosher yet i eat bacon and its not as good as a good old kosher chicken

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

by the way, how many of us have reported his posts to a mod?

thats the best way to get rid of him

 

[Cian]

Anyone thinking of Saddam Hussein's spokesperson when reading these posts?!!!!

It's so one sided (and stupid) its untrue!

No, Comical Ali was funny, this wanker is just sad. And a virgin. Living in his mothers basement. Ranting inanely due to a build up of unreleased testosterone.

We can take it that Ali probably got some, occasionally...

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Ostrich is also a kosher animal and Jews could eat it as well so im sure there are a few imports of it....

Pig is neither kosher nor halal so why on earth would they even import it??

And besides, i dont keep kosher yet i eat bacon and its not as good as a good old kosher chicken

there must be a black market for it


MUST be

 

[Buba]

stop.posting.newslinks.it.is.very.annoying.

I provide proof to support the facts and anyway, there's no need for this post of yours, you know why? Cause I'm leaving this place.

 

[Cian]

I provide proof to support the facts and anyway, there's no need for this post of yours, you know why? Cause I'm leaving this place.

SEVENTH TIMES THE CHARM, hopefully...

 

[Buba]

by the way, how many of us have reported his posts to a mod?

thats the best way to get rid of him

Hve you also report to the mod all the ones who spread lies and blood libels?

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

I provide proof to support the facts and anyway, there's no need for this post of yours, you know why? Cause I'm leaving this place.

6th time


oh, and if you get ALL of your opinions from news sites, then you're an idiot


and there was a point in my post, the fact that we have REPEATADLY asked you to stop posting in that way, and you have ignored us time, and time, again



so you're leaving now are you?

good, f*** OFF

 

[LondonSeagull]

Yeah....you can barely get a suitcase of clothes for a 2 week holiday in eilat through israeli customs so try getting scrapings of a pig's arse

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Hve you also report to the mod all the ones who spread lies and blood libels?

yes, like i said, i have reported your posts to a mod

 

[Titanic]

Bullshit!

It's not. I heard an interview with the young child involved, on BBC radio this evening.

He was a TERRIFIED 11 year old CHILD.

Just because they might get punished for it does not change the FACT of it happening or make it any less offensive and disgusting than similar acts by other people.

 

[Cian]

Hve you also report to the mod all the ones who spread lies and blood libels?

You mean you and LondonSeagull? Yes, yes we have. Anyway, aren't you meant to be gone? Don't let the server rack door hit you on the way out

 

[LondonSeagull]

As we said.....Israel is not perfect.......What about the amount of crimes British soldiers committed to Iraqis? Its a war...war is not nice and its the same everywhere

Try finding a few more instances of this happening....


And please please please dont tell me your using the bbc as a source for information.....

Let me kindly point you into the direction of this website which will tell you the truth what is really happening/happend.....


www.honestreporting.com and you shall see why i refuse to accept the BBC as a good source of information.....

 

[Buba]

It's not. I heard an interview with the young child involved, on BBC radio this evening.

He was a TERRIFIED 11 year old CHILD.

Just because they might get punished for it does not change the FACT of it happening or make it any less offensive and disgusting than similar acts by other people.

Is he by any chance a friend of this 14 years old child? who been sent to blow himself up amongst Israeli civilians?

Come on, Titanic, we all know that if England was in the same situation of Israel then England would have nuked Gaza completely ages ago.

 

[LondonSeagull]

You mean you and LondonSeagull? Yes, yes we have. Anyway, aren't you meant to be gone? Don't let the server rack door hit you on the way out

I dont recall saying anything to offend people or being directly racist at all

Is it that the truth hurts or that somebody is disagreeing with the norm??