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A quarter of web users hit by tech support scam



Fungus

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I *hope* this is fixtures, because it's worth repeating - "80% of UK internet users have never heard of these ‘IT helpdesk’ scams"...

From PC Pro - A quarter of web users hit by tech support scam | Security | News | PC Pro

One in four web users have been targeted by a cold-calling scam that claims to have discovered a virus on your PC.

The con, first reported by PC Pro back in March, comprises of organised gangs calling people and informing them they have a virus on their PC. The fraudsters then trick the victims into installing a piece of rogue software on their PCs which is used to steal credit-card details, as well as charging them up to £185 to remove the non-existent virus.

In recent cases, we have seen gangs employing 300-400 people to run their operations and using call centre-scale set ups to target victims en masse.

A PC Pro investigation, published in the magazine in June, revealed how various authorities and software companies had failed to shut down the tech support scam, allowing the perpetrators to continue fleecing the public with near immunity.

Now new figures published by the Government-sponsored Get Safe Online group claim that 24% of UK adults have been approached by a fake IT helpdesk offering to remove a virus from their PC.

"Given that our latest research indicates 80% of UK internet users have never heard of these ‘IT helpdesk’ scams, yet almost a quarter have been approached by them, it is vital that we make people aware of this threat," said Baroness Neville-Jones, minister of state for security.

"While it’s encouraging to see that UK web users are today more security-aware, criminals will always try to be ahead of the game and will use increasingly sophisticated methods to take advantage where they can."

The police claim the scam is operated by highly organised gangs. "This is big business," said Sharon Lemon, deputy director of cyber crime at the Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA). "In recent cases, we have seen gangs employing 300-400 people to run their operations and using call centre-scale set ups to target victims en masse.

"They can also be paying out as much as $150,000 a month (on a pay-per-download basis) to individual webmasters who are unwittingly advertising their fake software – this level of investment from criminals indicates that the returns are much heftier than this.”
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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You would have to be SERIOUSLY stupid to install something on your PC on the basis of someone cold-calling you to tell you "you've got a virus on your PC".

I mean come on.
 


Fungus

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You would have to be SERIOUSLY stupid to install something on your PC on the basis of someone cold-calling you to tell you "you've got a virus on your PC".

I mean come on.

Yes you would. And people do. :facepalm: You wouldn't admit to it though...
 


tinx

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Jul 6, 2003
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We have had some fun with these guys on the phone, he was adamant I had a virus and that no virus software could detect it, only their software and that I must act straight away. Most amusing as I kept him going for a little while.

He got a little confused when I mentioned that I wouldn't be able to install his software as I was running ubuntu and i couldn't run windows executables on my machine

I then happened to mention that I was an IT engineer and had been working directly with virus software for the past 15 years he just hung up.
 


If these people were really well organised, there'd be a google ad at the top of this page, inviting me to use their services.

All I've got is a suggestion that I might want to eat a cheap hamburger in London.
 




Horton's halftime iceberg

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Jan 9, 2005
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If these people were really well organised, there'd be a google ad at the top of this page, inviting me to use their services.

All I've got is a suggestion that I might want to eat a cheap hamburger in London.

Don't eat the burger what ever you do, it has a virus in it that will steal your identity (and probbaly delete the contents of your stomach).
 




cuthbert

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Oct 24, 2009
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I've been phoned twice, I didn't get as far as swtching the computer on, but they are quite convincing. They say they are working on contract for microsoft, and are microsoft trained engineers and have been passed details of a fault on my computer by microsoft. The first time I argued with her for a while and then just put the phone down, and the second time I told the guy I thought it was a con and I wasn't playing. I'm quite pleased to have found out I was right.
 




manilaseagull

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I've been phoned twice, I didn't get as far as swtching the computer on, but they are quite convincing. They say they are working on contract for microsoft, and are microsoft trained engineers and have been passed details of a fault on my computer by microsoft. The first time I argued with her for a while and then just put the phone down, and the second time I told the guy I thought it was a con and I wasn't playing. I'm quite pleased to have found out I was right.

Thats not convincing......I cannot believe anyone is stupid enough to let them get beyond" You have a virus on your pc"

I heard a good blast of a whistle makes them go away with ringing ears.
 


cuthbert

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Oct 24, 2009
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Thats not convincing......I cannot believe anyone is stupid enough to let them get beyond" You have a virus on your pc"

I heard a good blast of a whistle makes them go away with ringing ears.

They never used the word virus, they said a software fault had been reported to microsoft.
 


SweBHAFC

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Nov 16, 2009
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Could really do with some advice lads.

Bought a new laptop (Lenovo) a couple of months ago. I am also subscribing to Anti Virus software.

The other day I downloaded an album (through Vuze) and the computer just dies. It says something about Windows has to close and physical memory dump.

Anyways, when I log in again (in safe mode) I can't start the anti-virus and if I try and log in normally the computer just die when I get to the log-in screen (with the same having to close windows message above).

2 questions really.

1) How do I go about getting rid of this? (Don't mind paying someone to have the job done properly)?

2) What risk am I running that someone will empty bank accounts etc?

Would really appreciate some help.
 




Box of Frogs

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Oct 8, 2003
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Could really do with some advice lads.

Bought a new laptop (Lenovo) a couple of months ago. I am also subscribing to Anti Virus software.

The other day I downloaded an album (through Vuze) and the computer just dies. It says something about Windows has to close and physical memory dump.

Anyways, when I log in again (in safe mode) I can't start the anti-virus and if I try and log in normally the computer just die when I get to the log-in screen (with the same having to close windows message above).

2 questions really.

1) How do I go about getting rid of this? (Don't mind paying someone to have the job done properly)?

2) What risk am I running that someone will empty bank accounts etc?

Would really appreciate some help.
Have you tried switching it off and then switching it back on again!?!?
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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2 questions really.

1) How do I go about getting rid of this? (Don't mind paying someone to have the job done properly)?

2) What risk am I running that someone will empty bank accounts etc?

Would really appreciate some help.

take it to corner shop or pc world to have nasties removed.
dont touch your online accounts until its clear.
dont download stuff from unknown sources if you dont know how to fix the bad stuff. anything on vuze is of unknown origin.
 


'sladegull

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Aug 11, 2007
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Could really do with some advice lads.


Anyways, when I log in again (in safe mode) I can't start the anti-virus
.

In safe mode the desktop AV icons are probably disabled (they are on mine) . Have you tried running the Av software from your START , PROGRAMS etc ?
 




SweBHAFC

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Nov 16, 2009
126
Thanks for reply lads. Have tried the mentioned things already but no luck.

Me thinks I have to pay for soemone to get rid of it for me. Getting the new Iphone today and no computer to install software on!

People who plant viruses are scum in my book. Fair enough if they did so towards kiddyfiddlers trying to download filth.... But don't think the "general" user should suffer. If it is not monetary driven I do wonder what "kick" they get out of it.

Appreciate your help though.

Cheers
 


Laptop Ell

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Dec 25, 2003
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SweBHAFC....just sent you a PM! :thumbsup:

Re the "Microsoft" scam mentioned on this thread, I've been contacted by quite a few people who have unwittingly been taken in with the scam and are now quite scared about what is on their computer.

The software clearly needs to be removed asap, but it's not an easy removal and I've had to physically go and do the removal manually from several people's laptops. :ohmy:
 


ridda

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Oct 6, 2003
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Thanks for reply lads. Have tried the mentioned things already but no luck.

Me thinks I have to pay for soemone to get rid of it for me. Getting the new Iphone today and no computer to install software on!

People who plant viruses are scum in my book. Fair enough if they did so towards kiddyfiddlers trying to download filth.... But don't think the "general" user should suffer. If it is not monetary driven I do wonder what "kick" they get out of it.

Appreciate your help though.

Cheers

Go to this site and download the free version then run it in safe mode [with network connection] it,s very good and will get rid of most of the nasties if not all.

Malwarebytes
 
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mistahclarke

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Jul 28, 2009
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Thanks for reply lads. Have tried the mentioned things already but no luck.

Me thinks I have to pay for soemone to get rid of it for me. Getting the new Iphone today and no computer to install software on!

People who plant viruses are scum in my book. Fair enough if they did so towards kiddyfiddlers trying to download filth.... But don't think the "general" user should suffer. If it is not monetary driven I do wonder what "kick" they get out of it.

Appreciate your help though.

Cheers

launch the restore point from safe mode from before you downloaded.



as for the scam, plenty of people fall for this sort of stuff. To be fair your computer often sends messages to microsoft when it shuts down and people see that message. I have worked in fraud and sales myself so would expect to smell a rat.
 




Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Had one of said calls (from someone with an Asian accent insisting they were called Patrick), they're reading a script and hang up if you start sounding like you actually have a clue about computers.
 




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