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Herr Tubthumper

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You miss the point, most of the fans in the corporate area at the moment are normal fans. I have no problem with the club raising prices at the end of the current 5 year deal but I hope the club don't have the same dismissive attitude to those that signed up for 5 years that may not be able to afford a massive price hike.

My own view is that supply pretty much meets the demand for 1901 seats at present. If they hike the prices too much and large numbers drop out I do not believe these will easily be replaced by a long queue of new punters. Barber has a fine balancing act to undertake if he is so maximise the income from the premium/corporate seats.
 




Blue Valkyrie

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My own view is that supply pretty much meets the demand for 1901 seats at present. If they hike the prices too much and large numbers drop out I do not believe these will easily be replaced by a long queue of new punters. Barber has a fine balancing act to undertake if he is so maximise the income from the premium/corporate seats.

All guesswork but a good guide may be the percent that non 1901 tickets will have risen in 5 years. I reckon debits which were 40ish per month will be approching 60 by then if we are in the PL, so perhaps a 50 percent rise?

They may do 2 year or 3 year renewals at that point so they can rise prices again sooner ?
 


Creaky

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My own view is that supply pretty much meets the demand for 1901 seats at present. If they hike the prices too much and large numbers drop out I do not believe these will easily be replaced by a long queue of new punters. Barber has a fine balancing act to undertake if he is so maximise the income from the premium/corporate seats.

Whilst there is a waiting list to join the 1901 club then patently demand is outstripping supply - by how much can only be judged in one of two ways, increase prices until there is no waiting list or increase the capacity.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Whilst there is a waiting list to join the 1901 club then patently demand is outstripping supply - by how much can only be judged in one of two ways, increase prices until there is no waiting list or increase the capacity.

Okay. I was led to believe there is a negligible waiting list. But I'm happy to be corrected.
 


8ace

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Jul 21, 2003
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My own view is that supply pretty much meets the demand for 1901 seats at present. If they hike the prices too much and large numbers drop out I do not believe these will easily be replaced by a long queue of new punters. Barber has a fine balancing act to undertake if he is so maximise the income from the premium/corporate seats.

If we are doing well there will be slim pickings ST-wise amongst the hoi polloi for 1901ers who don't like the steeper prices.
 




clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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Whilst there is a waiting list to join the 1901 club then patently demand is outstripping supply - by how much can only be judged in one of two ways, increase prices until there is no waiting list or increase the capacity.

Not disputing what you are saying, but when I spoke to the 1901 office a few weeks back to enquire about selling my seat, I inquired about people that may be interested on the waiting list and I was told there is currently no waiting list. :shrug:
 


Beach Hut

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It's not about what others charge for me, it is about what the Albion promised and have now changed. Barber held a "focus" group last year just after the caterers changed. He promised it was the first of a regular series -turned out it was the one and only. He said bear with us we will get this right - they haven't they've just abandoned it. Again it's moving the goalposts after they've got your money. Bit of a theme developing here.

Very much a theme, I have a mail from a director saying the club will continue to subsidise the travel by two thirds which is plainly not true as the cost went up and also they are charging extra for some buses.

We are being milked badly now as the only thing that can be fleeced.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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As an aside why do the club leave it to the last minute to send out this season's smartcards/membership packs? They were sent only yesterday with an email stating if they don't arrive by tomorrow to call the club.
 






Goldstone1976

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Not disputing what you are saying, but when I spoke to the 1901 office a few weeks back to enquire about selling my seat, I inquired about people that may be interested on the waiting list and I was told there is currently no waiting list. :shrug:

You have a PM
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Not disputing what you are saying, but when I spoke to the 1901 office a few weeks back to enquire about selling my seat, I inquired about people that may be interested on the waiting list and I was told there is currently no waiting list. :shrug:

This is the same as what I have been told; hence my supply=demand comment.
 




The Merry Prankster

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I see it as Barber trying to get it right though, tiered pricing to suit more of the members and changing the caterers yet again is not, IMO, moving the goalposts. I couldn't care less who the caterers are as long as the quality of food continues to improve. I imagine there will be another focus group early this season. It was well into last season that they changed the original caterers how many meetings do we need?

It is moving the goalposts if you signed up for the 1901 and the food deal for a specific reason (one I'll admit is probably unique to me) and now it is rendered pointless.

The deal is also useless to those of us who don't drink.

A meeting to discuss the changes just announced would have been nice.
 


Icy Gull

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This is the same as what I have been told; hence my supply=demand comment.

Club are possibly using any hand back seats to sell as part of one of hospitality deals at the new higher rate. The fact that they are giving corporate gifts suggests they are not looking to entice current 1901ers.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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As an aside why do the club leave it to the last minute to send out this season's smartcards/membership packs? They were sent only yesterday with an email stating if they don't arrive by tomorrow to call the club.

This is going well. 2 out of our 3 cards have arrived. 0 out of 2 car park passes arrived. What is the issue with putting everything in a single envelope and sending it?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Club are possibly using any hand back seats to sell as part of one of hospitality deals at the new higher rate. The fact that they are giving corporate gifts suggests they are not looking to entice current 1901ers.

New deal is for the meal only though. Besides, I claimed supply=demand not that seats are being handed back.
 


Icy Gull

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New deal is for the meal only though. Besides, I claimed supply=demand not that seats are being handed back.

Exactly so they'll need to be able to offer seats, they may tell you that no seats have been handed back, which they would do if they have earmarked them for corporate hospitality for non 1901ers. Maybe I'm just a cynic
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Exactly so they'll need to be able to offer seats, they may tell you that no seats have been handed back, which they would do if they have earmarked them for corporate hospitality for non 1901ers. Maybe I'm just a cynic

I'm sorry; I don't understand what you mean.
 


Icy Gull

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I'm sorry; I don't understand what you mean.


I imagine that there are very few 1901 ers that hold a block of seats to offer their clients a corporate day out. The £95 menu is unlikely to appeal to enough 1901ers as a regular experience. I imagine that the club will be happy to sell this package to say 10 people from a local company but this company probably won't have 10 seat tickets. So for arguments sake I have two tickets but want to bring a further 8 clients. Do the club turn me down because I haven't got the other eight seats or do they sell me 8 seats for a one off game?

I am just suggesting that the club will be keeping any handed back seats for the top rate corporate hospitality packages and not selling them on to individuals/couples or families.

In retrospect their are too many fans who paid for 1901 as a treat to themselves rather than the corporate day out. Now there is a demand for genuine old fashioned corporate hospitality the handed back seats can be used on a match by match basis for the full package.
 
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WATFORD zero

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In think the major cock-up was at the beginning when they should have sold 'Premium Fan' and 'Corporate' packages, so that fans who wanted a bit of comfort after Withdean and Gillingham could get it while companies who wanted to entertain clients could have been kept separate. Whenever i've had corporate entertainment at football, it's always been small numbers, ex players hosting on tables of 8-12, freebies (scarves, books, mugs) free booze etc. But it was very expensive cause that's corporate Innit.

Given where we are now, i think this is the best that could be done.
 


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