6 years since the London Bombings

[beorhthelm]

The 07:40 train from Luton to Kings Cross, plus the next train on that day were
actually cancelled, so three of the four Muslims would have never made it to London
in time for ‘their’ bombings. The next train available to them was 07:56. The Home
Office report to this very day still states that the 07:40 train transported all four
Muslims.

its an unfortunate discrepency in the official report. the explaination, one familiar to anyone who gets a train on commuter lines, is that they simply got a delayed train. its wasnt *the* 7:40, due to cancellation, but a delayed train left Luton at the time. there are thousands of witnesses to this. meanwhile, apparently no one saw anyone matching the description make their way to Canary Wharf, which is hardly an obvious location. tbh, this is a new part of the story to me, its always been a flaw in the conspiracy narrative, where they went if they didnt get on the tubes they were supposed to. presumably there are many who witnessed this event?

 

[DTES]

A small question on the side - if you genuinely believe the state is killing it's own citizens, why are you not going f*cking mental about it, and trying to bring it down?

 

[beorhthelm]

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so yeah, a thousand people in the organistions they are running the scanrio for. thats not the same as the implication made that this was a thousand emergency services. why dont you spend a little time on youtube to find the video where Peter Power elaborates that all those involved were city clients in their offices? quite why he would go on TV to tell people that he was involved in somthing which was in fact a front for a secret conspiracy, asks us to believe in some bizarre double bluff which would be unnecessary if he just didnt tell us what he was doing that day.

so, Power's disaster scenario was with private companies, the demolition company seen near to one incident doesnt work with explosives and a delayed train left Luton around 7:40. whats left of the conspiracy credibility? f*** all.

 

[sten_super]

He came to London for safety. Little did he know that we are not interested in exposing false flag terrorism over here. Ever wonder how someone could be killed in a radioactive attack, in Central London after which nothing significant was done?

What are you talking about? The British government of the time attempt to extradite Lugovoi and other suspects and carried out a detailed investigation. Political relations with the Russians declined significantly. A 'security source' told Newsnight that they strongly believed that the Russian state was involved in the attack. What more exactly do you think they should have done?

 

[DTES]

Of course, the other point is that those running this country can't even close a bloody window without leaving a dossier about it on a train, or having papers snapped by the paparazzi. The idea that a scheme this big, involving this many people, could go ahead without a single one of them blowing the lid and releasing all evidence - either intentionally or accidentally - is quite frankly absurd.

 

[dingodan]

A small question on the side - if you genuinely believe the state is killing it's own citizens, why are you not going f*cking mental about it, and trying to bring it down?

Tbh, at first you go "holy shit". Then you start telling friends and family (and NSC )

Then gradually you become dishartened because people give disproprtionate crediablity to "official sources" and the media. You start to realise that if people are going to understand what is going on, it is not going to be because you told them. Someone wise once said "the truth cannot be told, it must be realised."

So when the subject comes up I do my best to tell the truth, not hoping anyone will "believe me" but rather hoping that over time, the cumulative contradictions, hypocracy and deciet of government will eventually expose to others what it has to us. In the meantime, we get marginalised, told that we are offensive and called "conspiracy theorists" etc.

 

[dingodan]

What are you talking about? The British government of the time attempt to extradite Lugovoi and other suspects and carried out a detailed investigation. Political relations with the Russians declined significantly. A 'security source' told Newsnight that they strongly believed that the Russian state was involved in the attack. What more exactly do you think they should have done?

Why not report heavily on what he was writing about. The media could have emphasised that he was exposing the Russian government for attacking its own citizens to justify further aggression against chechnya, and to bring in a more national security orientated administration. Unfortunately, that was all abit too close to home.

 

[dingodan]

Of course, the other point is that those running this country can't even close a bloody window without leaving a dossier about it on a train, or having papers snapped by the paparazzi. The idea that a scheme this big, involving this many people, could go ahead without a single one of them blowing the lid and releasing all evidence - either intentionally or accidentally - is quite frankly absurd.

You need to seperate the civil servants and politicians from those who carry out these attacks, because it is not them. They have plausable deniability, which is important.

Same with the training exercise. Its not like Peter Power was behind 7/7. The nasty stuff done by the security services is done using compartmentalisation. One part does not know what the other part is doing, for good reason. Each piece of the puzzle has no idea what contribution they are making to the whole picture. You can have 1,000's of people taking part in a training exercise, but only one person needs to know that it is cover for something else.

 

[newhaven seagull 85]

i was on holiday in lanzarotte so bloody excited that we had won the olympics , we were sharing an apartment with mum and dad , when we say the news flash on cnn , you dont think about friends and relations on a daily basis you just get on with the normal grind of life,but that day i did think about people i know who work in London and i hoped that they were not caught up in the nightmare that was unfolding .

 

[brunswick]

again, as expected - lots of "personal attacks" ....over the internet.....sad.

I have witnessed horrendous suffering around the world, and looked after dieing children - but that would not stop me looking into the corruption behind their deaths - this is not being "disrespectful" in any way. Many UK banks funded the Nazi war machine - am i supposed to never talk of this because my grandad fought in the war and his mates got blown to bits? Is this disrespectful? Is talking about the USA having a major part in Pearl Harbor disrespectful to those who got murdered?

ignorance is not respect, do not get confused.


If anyone here truly believes the BBC view on 7/7, especially after the Panorama programme a year before then these "believers" really have not looked deep enough into the official story because it stinks and is full of holes. To leave these stones unturned is not an increment of respect.

anger, attack and aggression is a clear sign of a belief system being rocked, the comfort blanket being taken away, a black sheep jumping over the pen etc etc.

come back with quotes from the official story, back them up.....or take your anger and insults elsewhere.

it amazed me how a palace fan comes on here lording it and everyone gets into a fun insult fest, but if someone goes against the official state line, then people shout to ban them. truly amazing, and an amazing eye opener.


To this day Peter Power refuses to publicly identify the customer who chose the exact scenario.

Why?

 

[dingodan]

quite why he would go on TV to tell people that he was involved in somthing which was in fact a front for a secret conspiracy, asks us to believe in some bizarre double bluff

As I said above, I do not think Peter Power thought he was taking part in a cover exercise for a terrorist attack. I think he thought he was taking part in a training exercise. Tbh I think he would still consider it a coincidence. He has, however, never disclosed who he was conducting the exercise for, he has never named the company unfortunately.

 

[brunswick]

its an unfortunate discrepency in the official report

an official report with dicrepencies needs to be re-looked at and re-published - surely.

there are thousands of witnesses to this

err, no there are not.

meanwhile, apparently no one saw anyone matching the description make their way to Canary Wharf, which is hardly an obvious location.

much press is located here (safe haven), and close to city airport....pretty obvious to me.

presumably there are many who witnessed this event?

presume away, but much better beorhthelm - no insults, and finally looking at some of the meat

The Canary Wharf (i am theorising now) i would say they "possibly" got to london late, thought they were taking part in a drill, heard the bombs had actually really gone off, got scared - and run for canary wharf - where they were shot as the press stated that day.

The above is a theory, but has no bearing on the overriding facts that present 7/7 was an inside job (drills, bus route, the accused bombers profiles, post the bus bomb area, the train blast, cctv, mossad, isreali news, elite agenda, who was to benefit etc etc etc).

here is Peter Power being asked about who his client was......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29tzNXKUL-Q

 

[dingodan]

Hey bro, not sure if you have seen this, this is an interview with BBC's Phil Hayton about the reporting of 9/11, when the BBC reported that building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it did. Pretty interesting interview.

"I sense you think that there is a conspiracy here. You might be right."

 

[brunswick]

yep, i saw that.....unreal, and i followed up the letters to the Cheif Exec at the time - he said it "was an error amidst the confusion of the day" lol.

But we are nutty conspiracy theorists.....that footage is in our minds, it does not exist......the BBC are amazing investigative reporters serving no agenda, and with no links to the state....the panorama edition was not real either, made up in my crazy mind.

hey, seen this, 7/7: the big picture now has a TV deal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRShNtoP22A&feature=youtu.be

truth will out, and i wont feel any better, or any "told you so," i am not trying to convince anyone, just present information that is very useful in making a balanced belief.

respect.

 

[The Spanish]

respect.

hahahahahaha

 

[brunswick]

hahahahahaha

dictionary for Spanish....

Respect.
[ri-spekt]
esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: I have great respect for his/her judgment.

ha   
[hah]
–interjection
(used as an exclamation of surprise, interrogation, suspicion, triumph, etc.)

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

again, as expected - lots of "personal attacks" ....over the internet.....sad.


If anyone here truly believes the BBC view on 7/7, especially after the Panorama programme a year before then these "believers" really have not looked deep enough into the official story because it stinks and is full of holes. To leave these stones unturned is not an increment of respect.

anger, attack and aggression is a clear sign of a belief system being rocked, the comfort blanket being taken away, a black sheep jumping over the pen etc etc.

come back with quotes from the official story, back them up.....or take your anger and insults elsewhere.

You haven't bothered to respond to my post #26. I suppose someone who can categorically rubbish the crap spouted on that video doesn't warrant a reply.

 

[dingodan]

You haven't bothered to respond to my post #26. I suppose someone who can categorically rubbish the crap spouted on that video doesn't warrant a reply.

I am not familiar with Kingstar, and I do not presume that the presence of the van means anything. But brunswick said that they do demolition.

You said:

"I happen to be one of the owners of a group of companies that includes Kingstar, so I can categorically state that this is total bollocks."

I did a google for Kingstar, and the first result says: "Kingstar is an ISO9001 company speciailising in diamond drilling, diamond sawing, concrete bursting and controlled demolition."

Was not very hard to verify.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

I am not familiar with Kingstar, and I do not presume that the presence of the van means anything. But brunswick said that they do demolition.

You said:

"I happen to be one of the owners of a group of companies that includes Kingstar, so I can categorically state that this is total bollocks."



I did a google for Kingstar, and the first result says: "Kingstar is an ISO9001 company speciailising in diamond drilling, diamond sawing, concrete bursting and controlled demolition."

Was not very hard to verify.

There is a world of difference between demolition using explosives and demolition using mechanical plant. Kingstar do not and have never used explosives.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Here's what I wrote on me blog that day when I got home.

Read it, skip it, take the piss out of it, don't really give a shit. RIP all the people who went to work and never got home

Thursday, July 7th, 2005
5:32 pm
Bad Day In London
So it finally arrived. The Big One. London’s cheque in the post that we all knew was coming. Don’t know why, but one of the saddest aspects was that we weren’t even allowed a full 24 hours to enjoy the innocent happiness of being the plucky underdogs that won the 2012 Olympics from under the noses of the arrogant French bid. Fuckit, the successful bid team weren’t even off the plane back from Singapore when the bombs struck. Mundane station names that you pass through on the tube, or get off at for contracts, or met friends at for evening or lunchtime drinks. Aldgate East. Liverpool Street. Kings Cross. Everyday names, everyday places. But not today. Hardly logged on at work and the news started filtering through, first from Sky, then The Evening Standard online, then lagging til they triple checked their facts, the BBC. First it was a ‘bang at Liverpool Street’ then a single ‘power surge’ on the tracks, then FIVE ‘power surges’ on the tracks at different stations across the tube networks, then a ‘bang’ on a bus. At which point everybody knew it for what it was. The Big One. Our 9/11. Our Madrid. The tube network shut down. The buses shut down. The mobile phone networks shut down. The London Stock Exchange shut down. And all the time, former colleagues who work half a mile up the road were calling in, grumbling about being evacuted or being locked in and made to sit on the floor. I got mails from Aberdeen and Australia asking if I was OK. I phoned my mum so she could hear my voice. She’s lost one son already this year, just felt that I had to let her know in as low-key a way as possible that she hadn’t lost another. Well not today anyway. Our team of six all went out to the Pasty Shop together at lunchtime, walked - down the middle of the road - down Chancery Lane. Normally we wouldn’t get five yards before being zapped by a car. But there was practically zero traffic, few lunchtime office workers, the quietest I’ve ever seen London this side of the opening scenes of ’28 Days Later’. It was almost silent. I left work just after lunch. It suddenly seemed very important to get home. I walked two miles to London Bridge, soaking to the skin under dark skies. Jumped on a tortuously slow train that wove it’s way through every slum in South London. Walked from West Croydon to East Croydon and squeezed aboard the very short, very late train to Brighton which – thank you! – actually stopped at Preston Park. Stepped off the train into a blue sky and warm sunshine. Others were not so lucky. I’ve never felt so happy to hear the train companies apologies for ‘severe delays’ due to ‘several incidents in London’. For once I could have hugged them.