6 years since the London Bombings

[The Spanish]

searching for truth in a disgusting act of humanity is about as respectful as one can get. I ask you this MR COINCIDENCE THEORIST.....


On the 16th May 2004, more than a year before the 7/7 bombings, the BBC’s Panorama aired a programme with a mock terrorist attack. This constituted of three bombs on tube stations and one within a road vehicle. The programme stated that the government could take over the BBC and reserve the power to broadcast whatever they wanted if this occurred, as this was within the broadcasting act. Michael Portillo on the very same programme said “we should certainly be talking to the broadcasters about the way in which the coverage is going to be organized.”

Peter Power worked on the Panorama programme too and, at the time of the bombings, he was a crisis management specialist and government advisor. He also ran Visor Consulting, a crisis management company, and was formerly a senior officer in the Metropolitan Police.

It is mainstream knowledge and mainstream fact that our friend Pete created the mock terrorist drills in London involving one thousand people on the very same day as the actual bombings. The mock drills he created were exactly the same as what actually happened;
three underground tube bombings and one over ground vehicle bomb scenario, at exactly the same locations at exactly the same time as when they occurred!

Stop right there! Timeout! Let’s think about that for a minute before moving on. What are the odds of that actually happening by chance? Think about it, just what are odds?

Probability of the 7/7 Drill and Attack coinciding without being planned in a given ten year period (I have put ten years into the equation to be generous to Pete):

London Underground Stations: 274
RELATED:
Explosions In London Probability of one attack by hour (5yr mean): One chance in 9,474,920
Open Hours per Day: 19
Probability of 3 station terror hit (5yr mean): One chance in 850,602,500,906,920,000,000
Open Days a Year: 364
Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 5.
Probability of one attack by hour (10yr mean): One chance in 18,949,840
Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 10.
Probability of 3 station terror hit (10yr mean): One chance in 6,804,820,007,255,360,000,000
Same Time 3
London Underground Stations: 274
Probability of drill on 1 stations per hour: One chance in 817,342
Open Hours per Day: 19

Probability of drill on 3 stations per hour: One chance in 546,023,643,432,766,000


So you then by default believe that these drills were done at the same time by chance with no one knowing anything ?? Then you my friend are the biggest coincidence theorist i have ever met, and very very stupid.

You can look into the Drill / Government consulting company, and how this has never been investigated, and how Peter P has been pretty much hiding from anyone regarding 7/7....or go with the herd and plod along in the comfort blanket you have wrapped safely around you like a little girl.

chances of a conspiracy organised by some of the worlds best resourced intelligence agencies being sussed out by someone surrounded by piles of dirty plates underpants and empty pot noodle tubs in a darkened bedroom on the 17th floor of a tower block - 8 000 000 000 0000 000 0000 0000 0000 0000/1

 

[beorhthelm]

It is mainstream knowledge and mainstream fact that our friend Pete created the mock terrorist drills in London involving one thousand people on the very same day as the actual bombings. The mock drills he created were exactly the same as what actually happened;
three underground tube bombings and one over ground vehicle bomb scenario, at exactly the same locations at exactly the same time as when they occurred!

the trouble is, this simply isnt true. there were mock incidents running, but all within the offices of the company - no one was on the street carrying out parts of it. and the scenarios run were similar, not the same, and those used regularly. it might be a "coincidence" that a couple of bombers might have watched the panorama programme and came up with the same scenario.

 

[Falkor]

one word for Brunswick f*** of ya shit ****

 

[Simster]

Getting pissed off with Brunswicks shithouse and offensive conspiracy theories now. If he gets banned I wouldn't complain.

 

[sten_super]

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I notice that you completely ignored my point, which was that this is not the right place for your conspiracy theories, in a thread which was originally about remembering those that died, but that you have now completely sidetracked. Well done.

I find it hilarious that the video invokes Ockham's Razor, while conveniently ignoring Don Quixote's point that the most obvious answer in fact does not involve any kind of conspiracy.

The whole conspiracy theory in fact seems to revolve around those supposed 'agents' that carried out the attacks being very very VERY bad at doing their jobs (i.e. operating covertly). Do you really believe that if a demolition company was hired to blow up the bus they would take the company van and leave it next to the bus as it explodes? Do you believe that a security consultant would divulge the operational plan of an 'inside job' in his day-to-day training exercises, on the day that the attack took place, when he'd presumably been paid a small fortune to devise this plan?

Your accusing me of being a coincidence theorist is probably the most accurate thing in your post. Yes, I am very much a coincidence theorist. Remarkable things do happen all of the time - they are not all the results of conspiracies.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

contempt to information one has yet to digest has a word.....ignorance.

anyway....

kingstar van below is company that does demolitions....fact.

(http://www.kingstar.co.uk/)

I happen to be one of the owners of a group of companies that includes Kingstar, so I can categorically state that this is total bollocks, unless of course you think I'm a terrorist

 

[brunswick]

MORE DECLASSIFIED FACTS:

Mohammed Sidique Kahn (one of the alleged bombers) was prior to the bombings
befriended by police in Leeds and he helped them sort out gang rivalry problems.
He was trusted by the police, and was even taken on a tour of the House of
Commons. Would he have been ideal to be used as a patsy or is this the image of an
anti-British terrorist?

The 07:40 train from Luton to Kings Cross, plus the next train on that day were
actually cancelled, so three of the four Muslims would have never made it to London
in time for ‘their’ bombings. The next train available to them was 07:56. The Home
Office report to this very day still states that the 07:40 train transported all four
Muslims. One of them on arrival at Kings Cross still had time to get on his bus so he
split from the others. The other three must have heard about the real bombs on the
tubes they were supposed to get on and then got confused and scared. They did not
know anyone in London and their phones were not working. They must of realised
they were now in serious danger. What would you do? Go to somewhere like a
newspaper company or an airport? Well, Canary Wharf fits the bill; many
newspapers are located there and it is a stones throw from London City airport.


It was reported on the TV news that morning (only once and never again repeated in
any of the media) that three terrorists were killed at Canary Wharf, shot by the antiterrorist
squad. How could they be blowing up tubes and themselves and be at
Canary Wharf? The fourth backpacker was eighteen year old ‘gentle giant’ Hasib
Hussein who was blamed for the bus bombing (he was reported to of eaten a big
mac at McDonalds just before blowing himself up). Officials say he made a failed
attempt to call his three associates at 08:55 at Euston Road. What actually
happened to him? The official version states he got the 91 bus from Kings Cross to
Euston station, then got the 30 bus back from Euston to Kings Cross. Why would he
do this unless he was following a script? It is totally illogical. The bus never got back
to Kings cross as it got diverted down Tavistock square but if he actually wanted to
go to Tavistock square he could of just stayed on the 91 bus....because that is where
it actually goes!

 

[Tricky Dicky]

searching for truth in a disgusting act of humanity is about as respectful as one can get. I ask you this MR COINCIDENCE THEORIST.....


On the 16th May 2004, more than a year before the 7/7 bombings, the BBC’s Panorama aired a programme with a mock terrorist attack. This constituted of three bombs on tube stations and one within a road vehicle. The programme stated that the government could take over the BBC and reserve the power to broadcast whatever they wanted if this occurred, as this was within the broadcasting act. Michael Portillo on the very same programme said “we should certainly be talking to the broadcasters about the way in which the coverage is going to be organized.”

Peter Power worked on the Panorama programme too and, at the time of the bombings, he was a crisis management specialist and government advisor. He also ran Visor Consulting, a crisis management company, and was formerly a senior officer in the Metropolitan Police.

It is mainstream knowledge and mainstream fact that our friend Pete created the mock terrorist drills in London involving one thousand people on the very same day as the actual bombings. The mock drills he created were exactly the same as what actually happened;
three underground tube bombings and one over ground vehicle bomb scenario, at exactly the same locations at exactly the same time as when they occurred!

Stop right there! Timeout! Let’s think about that for a minute before moving on. What are the odds of that actually happening by chance? Think about it, just what are odds?

Probability of the 7/7 Drill and Attack coinciding without being planned in a given ten year period (I have put ten years into the equation to be generous to Pete):

London Underground Stations: 274
RELATED:
Explosions In London Probability of one attack by hour (5yr mean): One chance in 9,474,920
Open Hours per Day: 19
Probability of 3 station terror hit (5yr mean): One chance in 850,602,500,906,920,000,000
Open Days a Year: 364
Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 5.
Probability of one attack by hour (10yr mean): One chance in 18,949,840
Mean Sample frequent (yrs): 10.
Probability of 3 station terror hit (10yr mean): One chance in 6,804,820,007,255,360,000,000
Same Time 3
London Underground Stations: 274
Probability of drill on 1 stations per hour: One chance in 817,342
Open Hours per Day: 19

Probability of drill on 3 stations per hour: One chance in 546,023,643,432,766,000


So you then by default believe that these drills were done at the same time by chance with no one knowing anything ?? Then you my friend are the biggest coincidence theorist i have ever met, and very very stupid.

You can look into the Drill / Government consulting company, and how this has never been investigated, and how Peter P has been pretty much hiding from anyone regarding 7/7....or go with the herd and plod along in the comfort blanket you have wrapped safely around you like a little girl.

What absolute garbage. I have read some shit on NSC - and posted a fair bit too - but this takes the biscuit (no offence to biscuit)

 

[Kazenga <3]

Brunswick you are deluded. Bit disrespectful bringing up all this on what was supposed to be a memorial thread too.

 

[Hillian1]

Highly f***ing offensive nonsensical drivel.

If you truly believe the f***ing shit you are posting seek proffesional help, NOW.

 

[Scampi]

chances of a conspiracy organised by some of the worlds best resourced intelligence agencies being sussed out by someone surrounded by piles of dirty plates underpants and empty pot noodle tubs in a darkened bedroom on the 17th floor of a tower block - 8 000 000 000 0000 000 0000 0000 0000 0000/1

Thanks mate, I think that about sums up the contempt in which these videos should be held.

 

[The Large One]

Brunswick, there is one almighty sense of irony in that I don't think I've ever seen such a pathetic sheep-like performance from such a gullible berk as you in all my life. This is a a well-known and indisputable FACT.

Go away and think about it. It might save your life etc.

 

[Brian Potter]

contempt to information one has yet to digest has a word.....ignorance.

Who says I have not yet had time to digest the "information" if indeed you can call it that.

You know, normally on here I keep myself to myself, without getting involved in squabbles that involve 2 intransigent parties who refuse to give any ground. But for you I will make an exeption. In the many years (do not let a low post count deceive you into thinking I have not been reading this forum for some time) I have never felt the need to react to a poster in the way I feel about what you have done today. Hove B&B has started a thread to mark the inhumane, pointless slaughter of innocent lives. Now you can sit on whatever side of the "conspiracy/coincidence" fence that you want, but to highjack that for you own agenda is below reprehensible. I am normally a fairly easy going bloke. I have seen enough avoidable death and suffering in my life whilst in the army to last a lifetime, and I wish to see no more. I was working in London on that day, and I saw the shattered lives of many involved. Now whatever you agenda, have some f***ing decency and respect those who died.

End of rant. Brian Potter signing off.

 

[MikeySmall]

Anthony was on my course at Uni - RIP mate - bit of respect eh?

BBC News - Obituary: Anthony Fatayi-Williams

 

[sussexadz121]

Brunswick is getting rather annoying now. Not to mention very disrespectful. I hope someone who has been directly affected by 7/7 doesnt have to read your jumped up bull sh*t !!

you sir are a

 

[Falkor]

I know a few people effected by the 7/7 mainly police officers that had to go down on the tracks to check for survivors, one of my best friends fell over dead bodies as there was no light down there, she is so messed up by what happened that day its beyond words.

My brother was caught up in the failed bombing a week later he was walking to get on the tube when a group of people come rushing towards him, one French girl grabbed him and begged for help, she had no idea what to do, my brother walked her out the station until the emergency services turned up.

I went to see the Rat pack that day at the savoy theatre, and i think i was searched 3 times, i felt sick being in London that day.

People should realise the effects this has had on people, the user in this thread with his theories is damn right wrong.

 

[DTES]

Brunswick - you appear to have missed the glaring contradiction on that video that appears before you even hit 'play'. Underneath the video, it states quite clearly that the conclusion is drawn on the basis of "Occam's Razor".

You (and the theory) then deviates directly away from Occam's Razor by introducing new assumptions, and facts that aren't relevant to the incident at all. Your conclusion (even before we look at how offensive it is) directly contradicts Occam's Razor. Unless you genuinely believe that "four deluded men decided to commit suicide" is more complicated than something that takes a 56 minute video to explain.

The creators of that website either do not know what they are talking about, or are deliberately lying. Either way, you are the one taking what they say for granted, and are therefore the one guilty of "blind faith". I feel sickened by the idea that you believe this, alongside a feeling of pity for you; I don't know which is stronger.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Brunswick, I would advise you to go and speak to my next door neighbour who lost his leg at Kings Cross before you start spouting your garbage. Show some bloody respect.

 

[dingodan]

but no, a bus went to a square that was NOT ON ITS ROUTE, and blew up due to those nasty muslim extremists....the very day all of the G8 were in scotland, and a day when no one backed Blair in going to Iraq.

sigh.

Indeed. I thought if very strange that the Bus ended up being blown up directly outside the Tavistock Institute. It is like they are laughing at us.

The sad truth is, historically, like it or not, governments engage in "false flag" terrorism. That is to say they fund, assist or themselves commit, attacks while "flying the flag" (so to speak) of any enemy that they wish to galvanise public support against.

It is a modern, as well as historical, phenomenon. If you remember the guy from Russia who was murdered in London, Alexander Litvinenko, he was on the run from Russia after blowing the whistle on Russian false flag terrorism.

From Wiki: "During his time in London Litvinenko authored two books, Blowing Up Russia: Terror from Within and Lubyanka Criminal Group, where he accused Russian secret services of staging the Russian apartment bombings and other terrorism acts"

He came to London for safety. Little did he know that we are not interested in exposing false flag terrorism over here. Ever wonder how someone could be killed in a radioactive attack, in Central London after which nothing significant was done?

 

[dingodan]

the trouble is, this simply isnt true. there were mock incidents running, but all within the offices of the company - no one was on the street carrying out parts of it. and the scenarios run were similar, not the same, and those used regularly. it might be a "coincidence" that a couple of bombers might have watched the panorama programme and came up with the same scenario.