30 years of punk

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Volume 1 track list

Sex Pistols – Anarchy In The UK (original demo)

The Damned – New Rose

Blondie – Hanging On The Telephone (live)

The Stranglers – Peaches (live)

Wreckless Eric – Whole Wide World (acoustic version)

X-Ray Spex – Germ Free Adolescents

The Buzzcocks – Boredom (live)

Jonathan Richman And The Modern Lovers – Roadrunner

Theatre of Hate – Do You Believe In The Westworld?

The Adverts – Gary Gilmore’s Eyes (live)

NOT exactly spanning 30 years of punk there are they, and has someone forgot America does some pretty good punk as well..

:rubbish:

'NOT exactly spanning 30 years of punk there', cos there IS no 30 years of punk. The latest track there is probably about 1979, like I said up top. You've been HAD, mate

 

[Marc]

i'm not even gonna BOTHER anymore

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

i'm not even gonna BOTHER anymore

Apology accepted

 

[Buzzer]

Interesting concept the whole punk thing.

It is anti-establishment but so many generations of music were that.

Jazz, Rock and Roll, Acid House, Indie, Heavy Metala are all anti-establishment with their own cliques, language and fashions. Punk was just another of them. It just had better PR. If Green Day is punk 30-odd years on then Jerry Lee Lewis was punk 20 years before the Sex Pistols. Just more shocking when taken in the context of the era and country he lived in.

 

[black & white seagull]

When you've all stopped bickering, you might be interested in this exhibition starting at the Barbican next month...

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

When you've all stopped bickering, you might be interested in this exhibition starting at the Barbican next month...

And I quote from the link:

'By the end of the punk movement in the mid-80s...'

 

[NMH]

Free CD in the Sunday Times part 2 next week. Whats the world coming to Joe Strummer must be turning in his grave

I thought he was all about trying to give music away for free! Sandanista, cheapo triple LP?

I sat with Lydon on his boat, when he asked me, what I thought about a Pistols 20-year revival, a concept that I'd brought up a couple of weeks beforehand with him. My response was;- that it was "not very 'punk', so on a music level it's a crap idea. However John, if you want a much bigger boat and loads of dosh..... then it'll do that alright".

Listen, punk rock was never actually a very 'punk' thing to do, it was about getting as much publicity as possible (out of thumbing noses at publicity), at fashion (while being a mass fashion), and having no musical ability (while making music).

Fithy lucre, swindle? ...."and we don't caaaaaaaare".
Yeah..... right. It was just YET ANOTHER rebel yell of adolescence, growing pains. Just like jazz in the 20's, rock and roll jumping on pianos wearing leapardskin prints in 1956, smashing guitars and wearing long hair in 1965, wearing eyeliner and gold lame in 1971.....etc. Are the likes of Kurt Cobain and Sid Vicious the only punks because they killed themselves?
Hope I get old, before I die.

Anyway, The Stranglers already had a free CD with the Sunday papers, a while ago.

 

[readingstockport]

Erm, CRASS existed long after 1979, all the way through to about 1984 iirc. then there was The Upstarts, oi but hardcore punk as well and also Flux, Conflict, The Mob, Amebix, The Apostles, Axegrinder - I could go on for a long long time..

Loads of punk after 1979, just not the commercial shite you evidently listened to

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Erm, CRASS existed long after 1979, all the way through to about 1984 iirc. then there was The Upstarts, oi but hardcore punk as well and also Flux, Conflict, The Mob, Amebix, The Apostles, Axegrinder - I could go on for a long long time..

Loads of punk after 1979, just not the commercial shite you evidently listened to

I dare say that even the sad fucks that were the UK Subs with ninety five year old Charlie Harper and three generations of his pikey family are still touring somewhere in darkest Holland or something (and no doubt attila will be on this thread later to confirm exactly that) but unless you were THERE, you won't know the fakes from the non-fakes. Punk crashed and burned in a VERY short period of tme. And it was dead by the time the first chancer in a pink mohican and shiny new leathers was selling his first photo to a Japanese tourist in Carnaby Street.

 

[NMH]

I dare say that even the sad fucks that were the UK Subs with ninety five year old Charlie Harper and three generations of his pikey family are still touring somewhere in darkest Holland or something (and no doubt attila will be on this thread later to confirm exactly that) but unless you were THERE, you won't know the fakes from the non-fakes. Punk crashed and burned in a VERY short period of tme. And it was dead by the time the first chancer in a pink mohican and shiny new leathers was selling his first photo to a Japanese tourist in Carnaby Street.

MC5 and The Stooges were making 'punk' 10 years before The Damned got a New Rose and Pistols made their big Anarchaic statement.

How old was too old to be punk? How punk is it, to place criteria upon a movement that shirks and shrugs off pre-drawn-up guidelines?

 

[Buzzer]

MC5 and The Stooges were making 'punk' 10 years before The Damned got a New Rose and Pistols made their big Anarchaic statement.

How old was too old to be punk? How punk is it, to place criteria upon a movement that shirks and shrugs off pre-drawn-up guidelines?

which was my point with Jerry Lee Lewis. Darn site easier being punk in the 70s than a rock n roll firebrand in J Edgar Hoover's 50s America.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

MC5 and The Stooges were making 'punk' 10 years before The Damned got a New Rose and Pistols made their big Anarchaic statement.

How old was too old to be punk? How punk is it, to place criteria upon a movement that shirks and shrugs off pre-drawn-up guidelines?

The only US 'punk' band I ever admired was The Dead Kennedys. Jeez, the BALLS to tour Amerika under that name don't bear thinking about.