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Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Ludicrous decision.

The word **** does not bother me in the slightest, but I can understand that authorities may want to cleanse football of foul language and aggressive behaviour, but a three year ban? Good grief.
 


hitony

Administrator
Jul 13, 2005
16,284
South Wales (im not welsh !!)
yep ,stop taking young kids and women to football matches ???


Do you just go through life trying to stir it or what? to be honest your contribution to NSC is zilch all you do is make comments hoping others will respond in a way that it will kick off.

Now if you have nothing sensible to say on any of the threads, just don't bother, it won't be a loss I can assure you.
 




happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,184
Eastbourne
This particular case is a ban imposed by a magistrates' court upon a criminal conviction. I think it's mandatory (I confess I haven't read the legislation for a while) for courts to impose a FBO for anyone convicted of a football related offence. If you'd been convicted of whatever you did in a court, you'd presumably be facing the same penalty, if it were deemed a football related offence.

The guidelines state "The court must make a football banning order where an offender has been convicted of a relevant offence and it is satisfied that there are reasonable grounds to believe that making a banning order would help to prevent violence or disorder.If the court is not so satisfied, it must state that fact and give its reasons."

Minimum is three years, which seems rather severe for a first offence.
 




Jan 30, 2008
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Do you just go through life trying to stir it or what? to be honest your contribution to NSC is zilch all you do is make comments hoping others will respond in a way that it will kick off.

Now if you have nothing sensible to say on any of the threads, just don't bother, it won't be a loss I can assure you.
whoosh that one went over your head , you asked a question i replied :facepalm:
 












daveyboy1973

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Feb 5, 2010
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bexleyheath
Daveyboy. Does this affect your work. If I had such a ban, as a Staff Nurse I would be in serious trouble.
no doesnt affect my work, just think the whole thing is ridiculous, i know people have their opinion but even the most anal of people must realise that 3 yrs for effectively swearing at a football match which is full of emotions is over the top. after all it aint a library, and if u read section 5, i didnt really cause any alarm,distress or harrasment to anybody.
 






Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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after all it aint a library, and if u read section 5, i didnt really cause any alarm,distress or harrasment to anybody.

It has to be in a place where someone is LIKELY to hear or see it & be caused harassment, alarm or distress, it doesn't have to be proven that someone actually was caused the same.

If they believed you had a particular intention to cause someone the same, it would fall under S4A of the POA. Just FYI, like.

I guess for whatever reason, somebody nearby deemed you to be standing out from the crowd, to be somehow audible above whatever other people were singing or saying. Were you warned about your behaviour prior to being arrested? That would be the typical course of action, after all anyone can have a momentary lapse & should get the chance to apologise/ calm down (whichever is applicable). I'd rarely nick someone for S5 POA without at least giving them the chance to wind their neck in first.
 


perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,461
Sūþseaxna
Remember Hillsborough

It has to be in a place where someone is LIKELY to hear or see it & be caused harassment, alarm or distress, it doesn't have to be proven that someone actually was caused the same.

If they believed you had a particular intention to cause someone the same, it would fall under S4A of the POA. Just FYI, like.

I guess for whatever reason, somebody nearby deemed you to be standing out from the crowd, to be somehow audible above whatever other people were singing or saying. Were you warned about your behaviour prior to being arrested? That would be the typical course of action, after all anyone can have a momentary lapse & should get the chance to apologise/ calm down (whichever is applicable). I'd rarely nick someone for S5 POA without at least giving them the chance to wind their neck in first.

All very sensible. But when crowds involved there is always the possibility of pandemonium or panic. Different rules apply.

security training | security officer training | security guard training | International Foundation for Protection Officers

I expect the supporters of the seventies will have experienced crowds out of control, notably at White Hart Lane.
 






Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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no doesnt affect my work, just think the whole thing is ridiculous, i know people have their opinion but even the most anal of people must realise that 3 yrs for effectively swearing at a football match which is full of emotions is over the top. after all it aint a library, and if u read section 5, i didnt really cause any alarm,distress or harrasment to anybody.
I 100% agree and sympathise. The Guardian today (7th Dec) have an article about how intolerant we've become as a nation now. A three year ban from football grounds for saying **** is an absolute classic example of Britain's modern intolerant society.
 


Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
25,518
Worthing
I 100% agree and sympathise. The Guardian today (7th Dec) have an article about how intolerant we've become as a nation now. A three year ban from football grounds for saying **** is an absolute classic example of Britain's modern intolerant society.


****
 


Lady Whistledown

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Hungry Joe

SINNEN
Oct 22, 2004
7,636
Heading for shore
What a very silly world we now live in. Any football supporter who doesn't feel even an ounce of sympathy with daveboy1973 over this is beyond my comprehension. Three years, just think about if that were you, THREE YEARS without being able to watch your team for shouting some words? Whatever has gone on in football's past is no excuse for disproportionately punishing the fans of today like this. Those who have made the comparison with lesser sentences for other crimes with a potentially far more dire consequence are spot on. Almost everyday I see people texting whilst driving; one of the most lethal things anyone can do in their normal life. Anyone who argues this is justified is a f***ing **** as far as I'm concerned.
 


Yorkshire-Seagull

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Feb 11, 2008
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How do banning orders even work? Assuming this is all true, are we really expected to believe that if the original poster turns up at Middlesborough on Saturday, that they would really know not to sell him a ticket?? Surely all that can reasonably be done is for Brighton to refuse to sell him a ticket via the website?
 


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