2012 World's Hardest Creature Competition, Quarter Final 1, Croc vs Grizzly

[leigull]

Yes. Come here mister two ton 35 foot long crocodile, I want to apply an elastic band to your snout to render you almost defenceless.

Not going to happen is it?

Steve Irwin could do it

 

[leigull]

Sorry, not sure what you mean? Are you saying that a grizzly would whip out an elastic band and stick it over the crocodile's snout? That seems highly improbable to say the least so the fact that a crocs snout can be kept shut by n elastic band is meaningless in the context of this competition. It would only have any relevance if the croc came up against a human.

Sorry meant to say it's "not" a question of who would win in a fight.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Steve Irwin could do it

steve irwin was an absolute MASTERMIND when it came to crocs though, and in general he knew a shit load about animals and how to deal with them

99% of humans would have absolutely no idea what to do in the event of a croc attack, and would most likely shit their pants (literally)

 

[Mellotron]

steve irwin was an absolute MASTERMIND when it came to crocs though, and in general he knew a shit load about animals and how to deal with them

99% of humans would have absolutely no idea what to do in the event of a croc attack, and would most likely shit their pants (literally)

But as you've mentioned, it's not a case of a straight FIGHT, otherwise the HUMAN would win this competition easily every year (easily, he's got a BAZOOKA).

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

this whole thing about being defeated by an elastic band is a bit meaningless isn't it?

what are the chances of a human having an elastic band on them in the likelihood of a croc attack, and would they have the time to get it out and put it on? only a trained croc expert who is LOOKING for crocs would be armed in such a way

also no other animal would be able to do this, having not yet acquired the know-how to make elastic bands OR the dexterity to use them

Exactly. It's just a bit of disingenuity by the haters. The only animal that can take advantage of it is the human and if you took an average human against an average croc the human would have no hope in hell of winning. The croc is an armour plated, multi-faceted death machine and no amount of desparate mud slinging should detract from that.

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

I think there's a problem with these polls as its unclear what we're voting for. Are we deciding who would win in a fight V each other, most deadly in their natural habitats, biggest threat to humans, which is the hardest looking, pound for pound destruction or what?

People seem to be voting for different qualities on every thread.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

I think there's a problem with these polls as its unclear what we're voting for. Are we deciding who would win in a fight V each other, most deadly in their natural habitats, biggest threat to humans, which is the hardest looking, pound for pound destruction or what?

People seem to be voting for different qualities on every thread.

who would win in a fight- not really, but could be taken into consideration if both exist in the same habitat
most deadly in their natural habitats- yes
biggest threat to humans- can be taken into consideration but not really
hardest looking- again, can be taken into consideration
pound for pound- yes


the beauty is that you should weigh up all their qualities.....but generally the most important is pound4pound and how deadly they are in their habitats

 

[leigull]

It can't be what would win in a fight between two animals as how could an orca have a fair fight with a bear or badger? It's got to be who is hardest in the their own right as turienzo says, pound for pound

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

current score is 22-21 (not telling you who to)

#extratimewrittenalloverit

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Just thought I'd add another couple of FACTS about the croc. It's skin can stop bullets. It has night vision.

So to sum up the croc:

has outlived the dinosaurs.
Has the most powerful bite of any creature anywhere in the world.
Has skin that can deflect bullets.
Attacks and eats big game animals.
Can survive for a year without food.
Can survive unhindered with missing limbs/tail.
Is lightening fast in and out of water.
Can see clearly in the dark.
Has it's own unique killing move-the death roll.
Their teeth are replaced continuously so they always have a mouth full of razor sharp killers.

On the other hand, the grizzly:
eats mainly nuts, insects, fish and carrion(which it hasn't killed).
Can't cope with winter so has to sleep for half the year.
Doesn't attack and eat any big animals.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Crocodile all day long.

Despite being massive mofo's Grizzly Bears eat mainly seeds, nuts, insects and fish. If they eat meat it's usually carrion which they obtain by using their superior size to bully smaller predators. Not that hard is it? Then there's the fact that they can't cope with winter so have to SLEEP all the way through it. Pathetic.

Compare that with the dinosaur slaying croc monsters who eat antelopes, young hippos, buffalo and large cats(as seen in the last round...). They can survive unaffected with limbs and/or tail missing and don't ponce off for a kip when the going gets tough(no need when you're hard enough to survive a year without food). They have a ridiculously powerful bite- 5,000 pounds per square inchiIn comparison, the Grizzly only has 1200pounds per inch). Crocs are lightening fast in water and over short distances on land. They're so hard they even have their own special move-the death roll. Which other competitor in this competition has their own special trademarked killing move?

The grizzly just can't compete with the Crocodile. Croc to march on to the semi's.

But crocs stalk and don't act hard, they don't inspire fear in other creatures who camly wander up to the waters edge to drink still knowing crocs are around. What creatures approach a grizzy bear when they know one is nearby?

Crocs can go a year without food, is that because they are too chicken to go and hunt for it on dry land or because they can't catch their potential prey?

There is a youtube video showing a croc going after a heron, not trying to get the bird, oh no, it was after the fish that the heron caught. Maybe fish are too scary for it to catch for itself?

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

But crocs stalk and don't act hard, they don't inspire fear in other creatures who camly wander up to the waters edge to drink still knowing crocs are around. What creatures approach a grizzy bear when they know one is nearby?

That's because grizzly's are massive. If they were the size of a rabbit would they be scary? If they were the size of a mouse what exactly would be hard about them?

Crocs can go a year without food, is that because they are too chicken to go and hunt for it on dry land or because they can't catch their potential prey?

no, it's so that when a cataclysmic event happens that means food becomes so scarce that the world's most fearsome predators-the Dinosaurs-become extinct the crocodiles can carry on as if nothing has happened.

There is a youtube video showing a croc going after a heron, not trying to get the bird, oh no, it was after the fish that the heron caught. Maybe fish are too scary for it to catch for itself?

Haha. It wanted fish, the heron had a fish. Why not try to take it? Crocs occasionally try and steal someone else's food. The grizzly ALWAYS steals it's meat.


Apart from size, what exactly does the grizzly have in it's arsenal?

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

But crocs stalk and don't act hard, they don't inspire fear in other creatures who camly wander up to the waters edge to drink still knowing crocs are around.

The other animals have to drink, they can't survive without water and so they don't have a choice to go near the crocs however they play the numbers game in that they all go for a drink together so there's less chance of being eaten

 

[Simster]

But crocs stalk and don't act hard, they don't inspire fear in other creatures who camly wander up to the waters edge to drink still knowing crocs are around. What creatures approach a grizzy bear when they know one is nearby?

Crocs can go a year without food, is that because they are too chicken to go and hunt for it on dry land or because they can't catch their potential prey?

There is a youtube video showing a croc going after a heron, not trying to get the bird, oh no, it was after the fish that the heron caught. Maybe fish are too scary for it to catch for itself?

A grizzly is MASSIVE, by which I mean 50% taller than a human when on it's hind legs. Yet will run away scared by a BELL. Not a cowhorn, or trumpet, or even church bells. No, I'm talking morris dancing bells. Yes, them. ding-a-ling-a-ling. Pathetic.

Just thought I'd add another couple of FACTS about the croc. It's skin can stop bullets. It has night vision.

So to sum up the croc:

has outlived the dinosaurs.
Has the most powerful bite of any creature anywhere in the world.
Has skin that can deflect bullets.
Attacks and eats big game animals.
Can survive for a year without food.
Can survive unhindered with missing limbs/tail.
Is lightening fast in and out of water.
Can see clearly in the dark.
Has it's own unique killing move-the death roll.
Their teeth are replaced continuously so they always have a mouth full of razor sharp killers.

On the other hand, the grizzly:
eats mainly nuts, insects, fish and carrion(which it hasn't killed).
Can't cope with winter so has to sleep for half the year.
Doesn't attack and eat any big animals.

This, basically. Absolute travesty that it's even close. Crocs have stood the test of time, and they OWN the little mud pools when the water dries up in the savannah. If a bear found itself in Africa and THIRSTY, it would be eaten by the croc with aplomb.

 

[Mellotron]

When a CROC goes a YEAR without food, it's HARD.
When a GRIZZLY goes a whole WINTER without food, it's being a WUSS.

Riiiiiight. Selective arguments there.

 

[Simster]

When a CROC goes a YEAR without food, it's HARD.
When a GRIZZLY goes a whole WINTER without food, it's being a WUSS.

Riiiiiight. Selective arguments there.

Why do you need to eat if all you're going to do is NAP whilst it's a bit cold outside? GAY.

 

[JCL - the new kid in town]

When a CROC goes a YEAR without food, it's HARD.
When a GRIZZLY goes a whole WINTER without food, it's being a WUSS.

Riiiiiight. Selective arguments there.

The croc only goes without food for a year when absolutely necessary whereas a bear has a nap every year because its cold. The croc doesn't choose to go without food, the bear does

 

[Mellotron]

For the record, I voted for the CROC. Just thought some of the arguments were a bit lame and selective, is all.